6.0L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2003-Up Super Duties and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.
I am totally amazed with the ability of this truck to effortlessly pull my 5k lb camper while itself being loaded with about 1k of ATV and equipment. I know I'm not pulling near what a lot of you are but I can't imagine spending thousands more $$$ on top of 40K just to gain a bit more performance and raise the risk of failures. Or am I totally missing something! Not wanting to step on anyone's toes... I would just like to here all your opinions. By the way- Great Site!
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'04 F250 SC XLT 4X4 6.0 TS - Muffler Delete, Mobile 1
'73 F250 LWB XL 4X4 390-Far From Stock
'59 Plymouth Sport Fury 361 Golden Commando-Sweet
'85 Yamaha Vmax 160hp-Scarry
'80 Honda CBX 6cyl-Cool
For me it comes from my Motorcycle Roadracing days, Stock is never enough.
There is something special by adding you own personal touch to your ride, doesnt matter if it's a Diesel Truck or a Small Import Coupe.
Adding aftermarket performance products is a HUGE buisness and has been for decades.
Go to any car show and try to find a box stock vehicle...
The only stockers there are probably car's / truck's that have been restored to stock specs because that makes them worth more.
Also, if you just watch all the new shows on SPEED CHANNEL about performance adds, it's getting like Reality T.V.!!
A. Chop, Cut, Rebuild.
B. Pimp My Ride.
C. Unique Whips.
D. Two Guy's Garage.
E. East Coast Choppers.
F. Orange County Choppers.
G. Truck Universe.
Ect, Ect...
Get it?
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Regards
JR44
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2003, F-250, 6.0L PSD, Torqueshift, CrewCab, XLT,FX4,Short Bed, All Black Sport Model, Sunroof, Line-X Bed Liner, AFE Stage1 Pro-Guard 7, DPPI/MBRP T-304 Stainless Turbo-Back Exhaust, complete with CNC machined collar!
Banks Tecni-Cooler, Front,Rear Diff & 5R110 Mag-Hytec Pans, AutoMeter Cobalt Boost,EGT,Trans Gauges on A-Pillar, Bridgestone 285 Revo's, Bilsteins,SSBC V8 BRAKE CALIPERS, POWERSLOT CRYO ROTORS, Lund Smoke Bug Shield and Weathertech's AeroVisors on all windows. 16YR N.R.A. member, 14YR D.U. member, 10YR N.W.T.F. member. 5YR Delta Waterfowl member. www.rntcalls.com
A stock vehicle is basically neutered in such a way that the worst driver in the world won't spin it out, won't roll it, won't oversteer, won't lose traction even on wet pavement. When experienced drivers get on-board, they can feel the understeer, the lack of throttle response, the de-fuelled shift points. The engine rpm that has a low rev-limiter, the top speed that is governed. A ride that has a tuned engine and suspension feels a lot crisper and responsive. Fun to drive. I have some mods that aren't in my sig that increase power and handling.
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2004 F-250 CC Lariat 6.0 PSD SRW SWB. Engine build date, 6-25-04. Prodigy brake controller, Husky floor liners, Tuff Skin spray-in liner, Fumoto drain. Pulling 2004 15 ft Toy Box with ultralights and dirtbikes. Other car, 05' Mazda Tribute.
If stock was enough, we would still be driving 4 cylinder Mustangs, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Falcon's
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Wolf
Kentucky built 2004 Silver F-250 XL Reg Cab PSD, 4X2, bench cloth seat,air conditioning, 6 spd Manual, 3.73 LS,Line-X , FORD receiver, Prodigy brake controller,towing option,( put together on Monday, March 29, del April 9 2004) 62000 miles
Thanks for the response gents and as you can see by the vehicles in my sig that I love HP and goin' FAST..., but this is a truck. Although I do get the point. Perhaps I must re-think my view point on the matter and step up to the plate!
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'04 F250 SC XLT 4X4 6.0 TS - Muffler Delete, Mobile 1
'73 F250 LWB XL 4X4 390-Far From Stock
'59 Plymouth Sport Fury 361 Golden Commando-Sweet
'85 Yamaha Vmax 160hp-Scarry
'80 Honda CBX 6cyl-Cool
Your not alone. My tow wt. (loaded) not over 8K#. Can grow alittle. Gonna stay stock & I'm just fine with that. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
Last ride was modded. Was fun doing, but turned out not cost effective for me. This one's got enough p/tq. for me.
Good luck...OT [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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I am totally amazed with the ability of this truck to effortlessly pull my 5k lb camper while itself being loaded with about 1k of ATV and equipment. I know I'm not pulling near what a lot of you are but I can't imagine spending thousands more $$$ on top of 40K just to gain a bit more performance and raise the risk of failures. Or am I totally missing something! Not wanting to step on anyone's toes... I would just like to here all your opinions. By the way- Great Site!
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I understand your side very well. My opinion is this, if you want to go with bigger/faster/more power, BUY a bigger/faster/more powerful vehicle. With todays high cost and mind-boggling (for me) technology, it does not pay to take the risk of voiding a warranty by adding a few hundred bux of performance goodies.
Only once, in 1977, did I alter a truck. I had ordered and taken delivery of an F250 standard cab 4X4 with the 400 cid V-8 and auto trans. I used it for my (then) landscaping business and for plowing snow in the wintertime for my 30+ contracts. That engine was THE biggest dog I have ever tried to use. I was getting 8 mpg, little power and I was NOT happy. Soooooo, I had the dealer add dual, side-dump exhaust, an Edelbrock intake manifold and a mid-sized Holly 4bbl.. When I picked it up I was absolutely amazed at what a transformation that stuff added. (not to mention it sounded SWEET) AND, I got 13 mpg plus I could smoke all four wheels. It also started immediately, no matter what the weather and I drove that thing for 5 years with pleasure.
You have to remember that back then, all that was under the hood was a radiator, the engine and a few little things like alternator, power steering pump etc. The average person could actually work on it and really SEE the engine. Not today. You have to remove about ten gees worth of crap just to get at the danged thing. It's a whole new world under the hood.
Add a chip if you want. Just have the bux to buy a new engine or trans if they fail because Ford will wash it's hands of it..
You play, you pay.......
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2011 F-350 DRW, PSD, CC, LB Lariat w/bed cover and factory Reese 5er hitch..
2006 Cherokee Lite 285B+S 5er
2009 HD Ultra Classic, red/gold
2007 HD FXD Super Glide, Red
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2004 F350, 6.0L TorqShift, SRW, CC, LB, Lariat, 4X4, Built Feb 2004
8" Lift, Fox Shox, 37x13.5x17 Toyo Open Country MT on Weld Evo Velociti XT, 4.88 Gears, MagnaFlow Exhaust, AMP Research PowerStep, Auto Meter Cobalt Gauges (EGT Boost Trans), ScanGaugeII, Firestone Air Bags/Compressor/Tank, BulletProofDiesel EGR Cooler, Valvoline lubricants, Final Charge Global ELC, DieselSite Coolant Filter
I am glad someone out there can also appreciate the performance of this stock truck. I have other go-fast vehicles that are made to do so when I get the urge and for a truck, it still amazes me when I Stand on it! The old 6.9's needed some help as did the chev 6.2. I used to install ATS turbo kits on both of them in the 80's which made quite a differance in their rated towing capacity. Well anyway, thanks for all the input!
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'04 F250 SC XLT 4X4 6.0 TS - Muffler Delete, Mobile 1
'73 F250 LWB XL 4X4 390-Far From Stock
'59 Plymouth Sport Fury 361 Golden Commando-Sweet
'85 Yamaha Vmax 160hp-Scarry
'80 Honda CBX 6cyl-Cool
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I am totally amazed with the ability of this truck to effortlessly pull my 5k lb camper while itself being loaded with about 1k of ATV and equipment. I know I'm not pulling near what a lot of you are but I can't imagine spending thousands more $$$ on top of 40K just to gain a bit more performance and raise the risk of failures. Or am I totally missing something! Not wanting to step on anyone's toes... I would just like to here all your opinions. By the way- Great Site!
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Hang around awhile on this site!
You just havent caught the bug that all of us seam to have yet!
Mods:
LINE-X, SteveracerMOD, Autometer Boost-Pyro; A-Pillar mount, MBRP 4" Turbo Back (What's A CAT?) Polished CAC tubes, Custom Heavy Duty Headlight Harness and Silverstar Bulbs, Heavy duty bumpers I built
hidesert you don't need to rethink your position. I totally agree, it is a truck and not a Mustang or Vette. Why would you add boxes to add more power at the expense of possible breakage?
Dave [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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2004 F-350. Standard Cab, 4X4, 6.0 with Torqshift, 3.73 w/LS. <font color="red">(((XM))) Satellite Radio.</font> Lo Jack, 6608 lbs wet. Born on 8/4/2003. Engine 07/23/2003. 3" Lift. Grover Air Horns!!! http://community.webshots.com/album/85108545NlXNsD
1993 F-350 4X4 7.3 IDI with 5 spd. Gone now.
1976 Kenworth C-500 with Detroit Diesel 8V92TA with 3 spd Jake, SQHD's and RTO 12513 10 Wheel Dump Truck. Sold.
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I am glad someone out there can also appreciate the performance of this stock truck. I have other go-fast vehicles that are made to do so when I get the urge and for a truck, it still amazes me when I Stand on it! The old 6.9's needed some help as did the chev 6.2. I used to install ATS turbo kits on both of them in the 80's which made quite a differance in their rated towing capacity. Well anyway, thanks for all the input!
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I can appreciate the power of the stock 6.0...I loved it. I decided to try an SCT with Tadd's (RMDIESEL) custom tune and the difference is amazing. I do not race or do burn outs. The performance tune made this truck respond like I was expecting it to stock. I haven't towed with the new power yet, I will post when I do to give a comparison to towing stock. I also installed guages so I can monitor EGTs, Tranny and boost and even in the max power tune things are good.
I too have a 5K trailer. With it loaded I don't think I am over 7K.
It's just not "a little bit more performance"
It's enough power to absolutely rip the tires off the truck, and throw your passengers into the back seat when not prepared for it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
It's enough power to not just "easily pull" your trailer, but to pass everything else on the way UP the hill. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
It's enough power to not need to downshift to pass someone...just roll on the throttle, and build enough boost an power to pass them like they are litterly standing still. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
It's enough power to warrant the use of 4wd, because anything less used in a race just seems to spin...and spin...and spin... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
It's what it takes to put the biggest grin on your face you will ever have....makin people wonder what the hell is so funny, and then ask them if they want to go for a ride... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]
Have I missed anything??? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]
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