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6.0L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain Discussion of the 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2003-Up Super-Duties and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.

       
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Old 06-29-2006, 08:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

dm50, what are the hose clamp diameters? I'd like to get some extra clamps before I go on a long trip this summer. I've got a part number for one clamp and ordered three of them, but don't have the part numbers or sizes for the other two clamps (I've heard there are three sizes - don't know this to be true, just what I heard).

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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

dieselmech50s, OT but would you mind looking at the thread titled "Another UOA" and let me know what your thoughts are?
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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

dieselmech50s, could you please elaborate on your last statement where you said "sometimes it's insufficient EGR flow". Can you explain why this would cause overboost [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]? I don't understand. Thanks
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I'm a ford diesel tech & boy i better not get one of these trk's in my shop w/ that glue on it cause I'd hate to have to clean the aluminum surface off. in torquing them the right watch when you torque them to proper specs. the clamp just barely pinch the rubber hose. if you tighten it too much the hose will stretch more & more causing the hose to tear at where the inside of clamp attaches to hose. I've done so so many that i don't need a torque wrench to do it. have had many come in w/ this problem. like i said before earlier in the post, if you do have a continuous problem w/ hoses blowing off, theres got to be a overboost concern. these crummy turbos are our #1 culprits in causing the overboost. sometimes it's insuff. egr flow.

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Over boost blowing off the hoses? how about 1/4 quart of oil in the hose slipping it off. Oil separator? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

Mine blew off several times about 60k ago. It was the oil, untightened clamps, and faulty cac tubing. If I had the problem again out of warranty I would sand the surface, clean with brake cleaner, and maybee use a light adhesive.
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Mine blew off several times about 60k ago. It was the oil, untightened clamps, and faulty cac tubing. If I had the problem again out of warranty I would sand the surface, clean with brake cleaner, and maybe use a light adhesive.
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Clamps and roughing up the surface is a help but I still contend that that the amount of oil in there is excessive. My method of using oil resistant gasket maker glue works and YES to the mechanics out there it is hard to remove when you have to work on it but you can just cut the hose and replace it. This beats the hose "blowing off" when you don't want it to.

Along those same lines I don't think all that oil being sucked back into the intake is doing much good for the engine. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

Got off my lazy a$$ today and followed roofeditors advice and applied http://www.permatex.com/products/automot...asket_Maker.htm
I applied to 3 of 4 clamp spots on hot side of IC did not do hose to IC or any of the cold side connections YET. Truck will sit for a day to let cure then head over pass with 8000lbs in tow. So we shall see. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/vulnerable.gif[/img]
I also took the time to flare my tube ends using a crescent wrench, which made a noticeable difference in how the clamps remained positioned when I applied the proper torque [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] (yea right). I am cheesely using zip ties to AC hose to hold the IC tube upright so not sagging and loading the hoses.
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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

I am a little confused. In general are most of the issues regarding the hose off the turbo ( blue connector hose) or is there a problem also with CAC tube as it comes up and over the near front of the engine compartment. I think both are issues aren't they ? I need to check mine out tonight as I am getting ready for a fairly heavy load to Tahoe next week over hwy 50.
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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

I'm not sure. Are hot and cold tubes called CAC tubes or just the cold side? I do know this Hot side uses blue rubbers and cold side uses black rubbers.
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I'm not sure. Are hot and cold tubes called CAC tubes or just the cold side? I do know this Hot side uses blue rubbers and cold side uses black rubbers.

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Their all CAC Tubes from the Turbo output to the intake just behind the EGR Valve. The major problem areas as I have read, seem to be the Hotside connection off the Turbo and the Coldside connection to the intake. This all seems to depend on the build date of the truck, recalls, TSBs performed and boost pressure. Basicly all connections are prone to blow-off if the clamp is loose and oil gets between the hose and connection, especially if you experiance an overboost condition. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

The 03 trucks used a metal tube with blue connectors. These never blow off.

They the 04's up will whenever I can't remember went to the textured hard black plastic tube. These blow off all the time.

Reefing on the clamps with a socket worked but Ford eventually came out with an "updated" tube for those that was simply the service replacement for the 03's which was the metal tube with the blue connectors.

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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

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The 03 trucks used a metal tube with blue connectors. These never blow off.

[/ QUOTE ] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] Yea right
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Your truck is chipped is it not?
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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

I worked on my turbo side connections last night just as preventive maintanance. I secured the long aluminum tube to the alternator bracket kind of like D_R_C did and tightened all the clamps ( a couple full turns on each). The outside of the blue tube only had a very light film of oil but nothing like some have encountered. I have a early 03 and what is a bit different is that the long aluminum tube coming from the turbo is insulated which I think from the pics I have seen is not what the newer models have. Mine also has the aluminum tube and not the plastic tube on the cold side. I think they must of used aluminum for a couple of monthes before changing out to the plastic.
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Re: Turbo Hose blew off again!

yea now Im having the hose prob, comeing back from Miss in Tenn pow no power black smoke looked hose was off. put back on 1 mile and off again, limped to a dealer bought new hose ,new one not as soft 6 miles latter off again , back to dealer, was on Sat no diesel Tec till Monday. thay said prob need a new turbo , so had to leave Truck 29 foot toy hauler both Harleys in Tenn. had to get loaner ranger to haul wife, dogs, Computer,and other stuff back to Roanoke Va. still under warrenty so I guess Ill see whats up Truck has 22,280 miles/ last 2500 pulling travel trailer Va-Miss and back, But not all the way back//
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