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Old 03-06-2011, 10:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What's it take to fix a 6.0 FOR GOOD!

Head gaskets, oil leaks, injector failures, coolant spewing from overflow, egr failures. oil cooler failures, etc. I've had most of these problems on my 2006 6.0 powerstroke. I stay on top of my maint. and follow severe service intervals. Had ARP studs put in with head gasket work 20,000 miles back. I've got 71,000 miles on the truck now and coolant is spatting out of overflow again. My warranty runs out in July of this year and want it to be realiable for me from this point on. How do I ensure that I fix all the problems that plague this engine for good. Are the mechanics just as much to blame? I'm tired of paying for somebody to turn wreches on this stinkin' thing and it's still under warranty.
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Head gaskets, oil leaks, injector failures, coolant spewing from overflow, egr failures. oil cooler failures, etc. I've had most of these problems on my 2006 6.0 powerstroke. I stay on top of my maint. and follow severe service intervals. Had ARP studs put in with head gasket work 20,000 miles back. I've got 71,000 miles on the truck now and coolant is spatting out of overflow again. My warranty runs out in July of this year and want it to be realiable for me from this point on. How do I ensure that I fix all the problems that plague this engine for good. Are the mechanics just as much to blame? I'm tired of paying for somebody to turn wreches on this stinkin' thing and it's still under warranty.

As I was reading this I noticed an advertisement at the bottom of the page for Steel Seal - which claims to repair head gaskets with no disassembly! Wow, it comes with a lifetime guarantee too! Maybe that is the answer?
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Like anything else - MUCH depends on the quality of workmanship.

ARP studs should be good if done right and if the heads are flat and not cracked or corroded.

Injectors are typically reliable if the fuel pressure is above the minimum acceptable level and you have the proper oil, filter, and oil change interval. The upgraded fuel pressure regulator spring is a "must install" IMO.

With proper coolant, coolant level, coolant changes, good head gasket sealing, your oil cooler reliability should not be an issue.

Either delete the EGR system or install a bulletproof EGR cooler and it will be reliable.

Have the STC fitting replaced w/ the one-piece upgrade. At the same time, have the stand pipes and dummy plugs replaced (upgraded parts). The larger turbo oil drain tube is also a good thing to install if you donlt already have it.

Install gauges - you need to know what is going on, including turbo boost if you don't already have it.

But I do believe the most important component of all - make sure you have good mechanics doing the work you need.
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Master Diesel Tech? Come on............where's the love man? Your killin' me doc. "I'm a doctor not a................"

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Is there any way you can find out how good the diesel mechanics are, maybe a web site or some place that rates the dealers work. I'm basing everything on what I've heard and both mechanics that have worked on my truck are well respected based on what I can find out, but both of them have called each others practices into question, claiming that the other guy did something questionalble which in their opinion may have caused the problem. Some of the comments made have even sounded a little fishy which makes me feel like I can't trust any of them 100%. I feel like since it's warranty work they may not be following all the correct procedures since it takes to long. how can I find out if they are doing it right?
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Master Diesel Tech? Come on............where's the love man? Your killin' me doc. "I'm a doctor not a................"

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i dont know about you,but,i picked up on a certain level of sarcasm.well done doc!!!!!!
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I picked up on it too, but I was looking for solid input from experts like the Doc.
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Head gaskets, oil leaks, injector failures, coolant spewing from overflow, egr failures. oil cooler failures, etc. I've had most of these problems on my 2006 6.0 powerstroke. I stay on top of my maint. and follow severe service intervals. Had ARP studs put in with head gasket work 20,000 miles back. I've got 71,000 miles on the truck now and coolant is spatting out of overflow again. My warranty runs out in July of this year and want it to be realiable for me from this point on. How do I ensure that I fix all the problems that plague this engine for good. Are the mechanics just as much to blame? I'm tired of paying for somebody to turn wreches on this stinkin' thing and it's still under warranty.

My 2006 has 44200 miles. So far its had a rear main seal (Under warranty) The keyhole gasket at the top fuel filter, alternator and just yesterday every part of the AC system except for the evap and hoses was replaced. (Desicant throughout)

My warranty is up in OCT of 11 so I am thinking of going to powerstroke magic and letting them do the ARPs and Gasket and EGR, coolant bypass and oil bypass. Also investigating switching to an ELC coolant.
I feel your pain. We thought we were buying a 10year truck only to find out its anything but. I have no choice as I think its cheaper to make the 6.0 reliable as opposed to starting over with a new 5 year note. THANKS GOVT and FORD.

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I guess I'm in the minority. I think the 6.0 is a great engine. It was all the bullshyt Ford attached to it that made it the problem child it is (and the emissions regulations to no fault on Ford). The EGR...what a joke....personally...if/when the time comes..I'd buy a brand new crate engine..and spend the extra $5k or so to modify it to what it orignally should've been.
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Okay. Sorry for the rare candor. You really HAVE to base the quality of a service facility and the technicians that work there by local reputation and experience. I don't see any other way to gauge it.

Concerning the coolant over flow issue the OP mentioned, it is not enough to repair the damage. You need to correct the cause. Head studs are nice, but we are finding out that they are not bullet proof. Unfortunately I have no direct experience with head studs but I can offer this... Over-boost conditions are the cause of 6.0L head gasket failures. It is important to be running the most current OEM calibration. Updates over the years have added built in strategies to detect and prevent over boost conditions. Having a healthy turbocharger is also a must.
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Ford Dr, for a guy like me who hasnt been to the dealership with my truck since 03/04, what does the dealership normally charge to hook the truck up and update the programming? Wish there was a DIY way.
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Ford Dr, for a guy like me who hasnt been to the dealership with my truck since 03/04, what does the dealership normally charge to hook the truck up and update the programming? Wish there was a DIY way.
You would be looking at updating all three modules - PCM, FICM and TCM if equipped. Being an early build engine it would likely have the inferred EBP strategy which takes a little extra time to run the VGT learn procedure but my thought is that 1 hour labor is typical and a fair charge.
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read these sites and it should answer your questions:

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As I was reading this I noticed an advertisement at the bottom of the page for Steel Seal - which claims to repair head gaskets with no disassembly! Wow, it comes with a lifetime guarantee too! Maybe that is the answer?
Yep, the treatment is about $100. per vehicle. My buddy used it on his kid's Firebird, worked as advertised, no problems in 2 years since treatment. This stuff was DESIGNED for HD diesel equipment, if it were me, I'd give it a shot.

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I put the bulletpoof solution kit on my truck at 100k....(egr delete, oil cooler, arp studs and gaskets) aprox 1500.00 bucks...now have 130k an havent had any motor trouble
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