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Old 02-25-2008, 09:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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'01 F250 Powerstroke Will Not Start!!!

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I recently purchased an '01 F250 4x4 7.3 Powerstroke which was not running and I can not make it start for the life of me. I have done some extensive searching in these and other forums and there is obviously some very knowledgeable people out there, so I am hoping someone can help. The engine is turning over fine and fast enough I believe, sounds right, it just won't start. Here is what I know/have checked:

-it has been sitting a while with no batteries. I scanned the computer and get no codes.
-I have replaced the CPS with one I know is good.
-I have checked the HPOP resivoir and it was full.
-The fuel pump is pumping, filling the filter housing, and I have drained water off.
-Oil level is full (if not slightly over-filled) although oil is very old and thin.
-When I crank it the tach does move slightly and the oil pressure comes up after 5 seconds or so of cranking. Also, the "wait to start is cycling" like it should.

Here is the real kicker though - it will not even pop off with starting fluid. I understand the LPOP, HPOP, or even old/broken down oil could cause this starting problem but regardless it should still start with eather - right?

Anyone have any idea?

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I would check the batteries first. Even though the engine is turning over, it may not be turning over fast enough. Disconnect both batteries before checking them, because one good battery could make the other test good if they are connected.
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Remember the three keys to make an engine run. Fuel, air, compression. Is it smoking black out of exhaust while cranking? If no smoke, no fuel, in most cases. The air shouldn't be an issue, although in one case I saw an air filter in a steel housing get sucked into the turbo. It smoked horrible, but that is something I would bet I will never se again. Compression is hard to tell, if it turns too fast, you might have a problem, if it is cranking too slow, it could be a lack of fuel. Remember the fuel injectors are fired by hpop, if there is problem there, it will be hard to find by old methods.
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On the batteries, I also have a 2003 that I drive daily which obviously has good batteries so I actually swapped those batteries in and it still wouldn't start. Most of the time I have also had a commercial charger with high amperage start olptiong hooked to it while cranking so I am relatively certain it is not a battery problem.

It seems to be turning over fast enough and definately not too slow. I am not getting smoke from the exhaust, but again - even if it is a fuel delivery problem shouldn't it be starting with the eather sprayed into the intake tube, even if it only runs a second...??
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PowerStroke diagnosis

Have you checked dieselmann's page which gives diagnostic procedures for starting problems? The link is above.
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On the batteries, I also have a 2003 that I drive daily which obviously has good batteries so I actually swapped those batteries in and it still wouldn't start. Most of the time I have also had a commercial charger with high amperage start olptiong hooked to it while cranking so I am relatively certain it is not a battery problem.

It seems to be turning over fast enough and definately not too slow. I am not getting smoke from the exhaust, but again - even if it is a fuel delivery problem shouldn't it be starting with the eather sprayed into the intake tube, even if it only runs a second...??
Might need to get it on a scanner ,,,Look at ICP & IPR DC% while cranking ,,,,,
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Did you check the #30 fuse if it bad un plug the fuel heater.It did it to me and wouldn't start just turn over.
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Did you check the #30 fuse if it bad un plug the fuel heater.It did it to me and wouldn't start just turn over.
He's getting a WTS light....
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Try disconnecting the the plug on the IPR and see what happens.

Also, I'm curious...did you ever hear it run before it was bought? What does the previous owner have to say about it? A little history on it would be helpful.

Oh...and I'd be very careful with the ether
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Don, thanks - I will check out Dieselmann.

I guess you guys are saying since I get the WTS that the fuel heater is OK??

I will certainly try disconnecting the IPR - what/where is it?

As for the history - I bought it from a dealer who deals in used work/fleat vehicles. He bought this truck in a block of 10 trucks and said it didn't run when he got it. I know I took a big chance, but I only paid $2000. He seamed like an honest enough guy, as far as a used car dealer can be, and he told me he thought it was the fuel pump because he said he actually started it and heard it run with ether. However, I can not do the same.

BTW, I genuinly want to thank you guys for your pateince and input.
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Did it come from Louisiana?
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Yes if you have the WTS light , the 30 amp fuse which powers the IDM relay, PCM relay, and Fuel Heater is not blown.
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AutoEnginuity PC Scan Tool (USB)

I think that you made a wise decision to take a chance on the truck, since you were only risking $2000.

My next suggestion is to read the codes to see if that will help with the diagnosis. The link above is where you can get the autoenginuity code reader with ford bundle for less than $350.

Let us know what codes you get.
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