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Old 12-18-2007, 12:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it better to switch to Manual Lock-outs???

I’ve read that some of us have changed from ESOF to manual lockouts and I'm at the point of deciding what direction to take.

I am trying to decide weather it would be better to re-build my factory hubs or abandon them and install the Warn type of lock-out. My factory hubs no longer lock in with the switch and the O-rings are sticking out by the dial on the hub so that I can't even manually change them to lock. Because it was so hard to turn the dial we tried to force them and cracked the plastic dial, so do you think that I should rebuild this and replace the dial or just totally go to the manuals.

I do prefer the ESOF because I would rather just flip a switch and keep driving and not have to stop & get out of the truck to turn a dial, but how expensive is it to rebuild the factory hubs/o-rings & do I need to replace the plastic dial (or can I seal the crack and use it as is?)?

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Old 12-18-2007, 01:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Is it better to switch to Manual Lock-outs???

I was in the same position. My factory ones seized up on me. I looked into getting a rebuild kit, but they are not available. They are sold complete and they are expensive. I decided to go manual and put the Warns in. This past week was my 1st experience with manual. Locking them in is no biggie. Just lock them in and leave it when you anticipate poor road conditions. Then just go in and out of 4x with the dash switch. Today, 2 days after the foot of snow has been cleared and the roads are dry, I simply put them back into the 'free' position. Took like 15 seconds. A lot of guys just leave them locked in all the time. A little more drag on the drive train,a little less fuel economy, but not too bad. Mind you the ones who leave them locked have to deal with poor road conditions all the time. The realiability factor with the Warn's will out do the factory ones by a mile. My 2 cents. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Is it better to switch to Manual Lock-outs???

What LooseWheel said, same situation with mine. Replaced with Warn's and all is good. My stockers would seize up and I got tired of pulling them and cleaning.
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Re: Is it better to switch to Manual Lock-outs???

The other advantage is you can go into 2wd low by just going into 4Lo. I use this all the time with backing my trailer up my hill of a driveway. Yes you can do a mode to allow this with stock hubs but mine didn't work too well.
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Re: Is it better to switch to Manual Lock-outs???

I happen to like the ESOF as it was designed. Mine has not given me any problems and there are a bunch of times that I like being able to select it from the cab. As far a 2Low goes, just unplug the vacuum solenoid or put in a switch like I did. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Is it better to switch to Manual Lock-outs???

If it were mine I'd fix the auto hubs. They are expensive though. Around $300 per hub from the dealer. A lot less (used) off of Ebay. I might switch mine to 4wd 4 or 5 times a day sometimes. Then it might be a month before I use it again.
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Re: Is it better to switch to Manual Lock-outs???

I went with the Warns and would never go back to the auto. One auto hub is $295 i bought a Warn kit with 2 hubs and every thing to put them in (which consists of a snap ring) for $215 so i figered it was stuped to do any thing else.
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Re: Is it better to switch to Manual Lock-outs???

Cool Canuck - Where did you buy your heater bypass?
I'd like to get one. Can it be used with just the vent as well or does it just work with the MAX A/C on.
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Re:Manual Lock-outs

I bought the Warns and now I need to know do I have to plug any vaccum lines and if so do I need to buy anyting else & does anyone have pics on where this is done?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DandE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bought the Warns and now I need to know do I have to plug any vaccum lines and if so do I need to buy anyting else & does anyone have pics on where this is done?

Dale </div></div>

Yes plug the vaccum lines at the hub or at the solenoid
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I have the Warn manual hubs and wouldn't consider anything else. Once I manually lock in the hubs, I can shift into and out of 4WD on the fly just fine. This time of year I usually have them locked in all the time and just shift into 4WD when I need to. If I am going on a trip and the roads are bare, I'll go ahead and unlock them.
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