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Old 02-05-2008, 11:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Busted Block , what to do ?

I took my truck in to have the cam sensor recall done. I'd been smelling antifreeze but couldn't see where it was coming from. The mech showed me this morning.
ON the passenger side, front of engine, the front freeze plug area , about mid way of the freeze plug on the front side just out from the plug ,

He wiped the block and you could see the Green coming though., Wiped again and it just kept popping up. I thought it was the freeze plug but he says its a crack.

Dealer wants $11K for new engine.
Mech says he's got a 02' model engine, $2500, $6K installed from his shop at home.

My thought at first look was , Where did I put that tube of JB Weld at or should I buy a new fresh tube.

what to do ? Are there any other options ? Tell me quick .......
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Last year my Mack dump truck was leaking anti freeze out of front of the 1500 dollar radiator because some kids was doin donughts with a 4x4 and stones flew all over everywhere. One stone put nice small pencil hole in radiator. I drained radiator, cleaned out hole with an awl and sprayed either in to clean it.
I used 4 hour JB WELD and let it set with light heat for 8 hours. Filled up radiator and have been using truck ever since and no leaks
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Where are you located?

That is an excellent price for a 7.3 engine. The install price seems a bit excessive. If he guarantee's the engine, I would buy it in a heartbeat, and look elsewhere for the install.

Or do it myself,

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I took my truck in to have the cam sensor recall done. I'd been smelling antifreeze but couldn't see where it was coming from. The mech showed me this morning.
ON the passenger side, front of engine, the front freeze plug area , about mid way of the freeze plug on the front side just out from the plug ,

He wiped the block and you could see the Green coming though., Wiped again and it just kept popping up. I thought it was the freeze plug but he says its a crack.

Dealer wants $11K for new engine.
Mech says he's got a 02' model engine, $2500, $6K installed from his shop at home.

My thought at first look was , Where did I put that tube of JB Weld at or should I buy a new fresh tube.

what to do ? Are there any other options ? Tell me quick .......
JB Weld and Evan coolant.
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i got a new 7.3L motor with 57K on it 1 year warranty and rebuuild tranny all installed for under 7g's ... I blew a Rod on the old motor ....had the work done at a MotorWORKS..
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Evans coolant uses no pressure; so it might hold with JB weld. That might be worth a try. It could save you a lot of money if it works.
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Some reading here: Welding on an Engine Block? - Binder Bulletin Forums

I had a taped episode of muscle car where they had been restoring the last Corvette Sting Ray (67?) and the transport company had dropped the block (matching numbers!!). Anyhow, some specialty welding place was going to fix it up. Didn't get to see who/how as it was next episode. So I guess you can weld it somehow. That block had a huge ear busted right off.

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Otherwise get a dremel and grind a small trough, clean with brakekleen in the trough/crack and all around. Then stuff it with JB weld.

Friend of mine fixed an oil leak from a small crack in his Toyota 4x4 engine block that way years ago.

You might have to remove the frost plug/drain coolant before repairing it, then put a new frost plug in.

I'd give that a shot first before spending thousands.
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Otherwise get a dremel and grind a small trough, clean with brakekleen in the trough/crack and all around. Then stuff it with JB weld.
Good suggestion, although drilling a hole thru the end of the crack (assuming you can find it) is extra insurance against the crack growing. If one end goes thru the freeze plug, then it isn't going to grow that direction, but the other way might.

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You might have to remove the frost plug/drain coolant before repairing it, then put a new frost plug in.
Another good idea, even if you don't have to it. Run the JB Weld in the frost plug hole as well, then dress it up to receive the new frost plug.

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I'd give that a shot first before spending thousands.
I agree.
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You might be able to try the metal stitching like the do for the Cummins 53 block. It takes some time, but it's not too hard. Just make sure you get on both sides of the crack or it will just keep growing.
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Feeling Sick

You know that feeling you had in your young drinking days when you've had to much to drink and the room starts spinning then you hold your hand over your mouth to hold everything in until you can get outside or to the toilet ?



I've still got that feeling. Even buying a new pack of JB didn't slow it down.


I'll be pulling a 5th wheel camper this summer from Ga to Florida and other places, and the thought of the engine blowing apart like a yard sale on the side of the road is ........ well you know.

I did look up Jasper engines , looks like a short block from them would be in the $4400 range with a warranty. that still makes me sick but a little better.

The JB and the Evans ,, I'll try it first.
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A couple of the members in FTE had the same crack at the same place. They tried JB weld and other topical products. I believe they both ended up replacing their engines.
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When I had a cracked block (overuse of block heater on an old 6.9) years ago, I was told the only way to properly weld it was to dismantle the entire block, heat up the block to about 600 F., then weld it and allow it to cool. Then rebore, etc. the block. Ended up getting a used motor and having it rebuilt.
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there sure a lot of people takinn their trucks in to stealerships to do the cps recall and writtinn in to complain about them findinn stuff to fix? i think ill do my own. never goinn to take it there.
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Buy a used low mileage motor before you buy a Jasper. I have done some unbelievable fixes with JB weld. A friend of mine broke a ring in his car. I dropped the pan, pulled the piston out, honed the cylinder, filled the gouge with JB weld. Let it sit overnight, rehoned it. replaced the rings. buttonned it back up. He drove it for another hundred thousand. I held my breath for the first 25K. When he sold it, it was using less than a half quart between oil changes.
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I haven't tried JB weld on the internal parts of an engine, but we build truck engines, mainly CAT and I have used a product called Devcon. We repair the lower recievers and counterbores with it and haven't had any problems. It's like liquid steel, it grinds like steel when it's dry too....good luck....
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