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Old 04-19-2010, 12:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Die Hard Platinum Batteries

Are they worth the 189.99 price tag?
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Who knows? What kind of cranking amps and cold cranking amps do they deliver?

You can probably get a MotorCraft battery exactly like what came in your truck for less than that, and they are good batteries.
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4 year replacement 100 month prorated
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I used to buy Sears DieHard batteries all the time - until they priced themselves out of the market. Not necessarily because they had a better battery, but because the return policy was easier.

While I am very ashamed to admit this, when I recently replaced my batteries, the wholesale parts house had the Motorcraft batteries for 90 bucks, and AC-Delco for 70. The Delco battery had 850 CCA, so I went with that. I really expected my truck to have an allergic reaction, but so far so good. It cranks as fast as a jet engine. I guess now I can say I have a hybrid vehicle.
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Are they worth the 189.99 price tag?
Those are Odyssey batteries. I recently (a couple of months ago) replaced the batteries in my truck. I would have bought those batteries if I could have gotten the Odyssey branded ones for that price. Sears owes me money so I don't buy anything from them.
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batteries

okay, just MHO, but why would anyone pay $200 (with tax) for a battery that can be bought at wally world or costco for $79?? DH batteries used to be the best for the $$, but they are just another over-priced car item now.

When you consider that you should replace your batteries in pairs...do you really want to shell out $410??????

again, just my opinion....
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okay, just MHO, but why would anyone pay $200 (with tax) for a battery that can be bought at wally world or costco for $79??
I believe they are a better quality battery that you can buy at Walmart or Costco.
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yea every time I get something from walmart I kick myself because it never lasts...lol I got some new batteries from oreilly they are 860 cca and I got a good deal on them at $80 each and have a 3 year full replacement you can buy the ford ones for $129 each
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Thanks for the feedback, I decided to go with Duralast Golds. 200 bucks for a pair sounded a lot better then the 400 for the Diehards.
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I'm running Die Hard Platinum's in both my truck and my wife's 1997 OBS PSD. They stay clean, one Platinum starts my truck better than 2 Motorcraft's ever did. I didn't used to believe in them, but now I won't buy anything else.
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I believe they are a better quality battery that you can buy at Walmart or Costco.
Not sure on Walmart and don't know the difference in quality but it's hard to beat Costco's price and return policy for batteries. I've been running them in all my vehicles for 15 years and haven't had to return one yet.

Just so you know....you can also return a battery when it gets close to the pro-rate date by just saying it's bad and receive a new one. They don't test em.

The main thing you should pay attention to is the expiration date on the battery. They are supposed to be rotated, but sometimes aren't and can sit on the rack for a long time.

Disclaimer- I am a former Costco employee and current stockholder.
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Not sure on Walmart and don't know the difference in quality but it's hard to beat Costco's price and return policy for batteries. I've been running them in all my vehicles for 15 years and haven't had to return one yet.

Just so you know....you can also return a battery when it gets close to the pro-rate date by just saying it's bad and receive a new one. They don't test em.

The main thing you should pay attention to is the expiration date on the battery. They are supposed to be rotated, but sometimes aren't and can sit on the rack for a long time.

Disclaimer- I am a former Costco employee and current stockholder.
I don't consider how easy it is to cheat a company out of a replacement battery. I don't even give warranty much consideration. I purchase batteries for the purpose of starting my truck.
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I don't consider how easy it is to cheat a company out of a replacement battery. I don't even give warranty much consideration. I purchase batteries for the purpose of starting my truck.
How is it cheating the company if it's their policy?
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I'm in the lead industry. I work for the #1 lead producer in the US The best battery making companies in my book are either Johnson Controls (Optima, Duralast, Interstate, ProStart, and Everstart) Yuasa, or East Penn (Deka).

I know what goes into a battery, and I know how the companies make them, and I run gold top duralasts in everthing I own except for the Harley which has a Yuasa. Read into that what you will.

However, buying a battery from any of those manufactures as opposed to an chineese battery will help support the livelyhood of the nearly 2000 Americans that mine, smelt and process lead in my company, and the others people who work for the battery companies. If you choose to buy from those companies, I, and my co-workers, thank you.

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On edit: I should point out that even though Johnson Controls makes all those brands, they are NOT the same in terms of quality. Each customer has different requirement to the composition of the alloys in the batteries. Generally more expensive is more durable. I personally avoid the Wal-Mart everstart like the plauge. They have the cheapest (and softest) plates and do not hold up over time.
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lead buys your bread?? my possible hi-jack item

Great comments, well-presented, and sensible. But, I made an interesting observation, and it's not meant as a complaint. You obviously would like people to buy American made batteries because they help the "2000 or so people" in the American lead industry, yet you drive a Toyota and a Suzuki Samurai? Whether purchased new or used, or actually made in the USA or not, there is a positive offshore impact throughout the life of those vehicles.

Myself, I believe we make America better when we buy the best-value or best-made item, foreign or domestic. If Americans had never flocked to buy Toyota and Datsun/Nissan vehicles when the Big Three were turning out cars and trucks that hardly left the dealer lot before they started falling apart, the Big Three never would have improved their product to what it is today. American autos compete very well with imports now because the U.S. auto industry lost it's butt to a better product in the 70's. Same thing is true of the personal computer industry and one Bill Gates. His product may not have been the best, but it was the best value, and it was perceived that way the world over.

Market-driven economics and Supply & Demand will always create better products overall than "Buy American" slogans. When people pledge allegiance to their home-grown items, and those items are not made better or represent a better value than foreign items, those people will eventually wind up with the Zil, the Beta-max, the Packard-Bell computer, the DeSoto, and the Hillman, just to name a few. This is not related in any way to the fine battery brands you listed, and should not be taken as critical of the American battery maker.

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