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Old 06-03-2009, 07:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I replaced Master & Slave Still not Working

Hello,

So after lots of reading I came to the conclusion that I needed

a pre bled MC & SC set from ford. Put it in... and nothing ! the clutch feels

great ! but doesn't do anything ! I push it in and out and it feels like normal.

How it all started was I was parking the truck at a store and the peddle just

went to the floor. I talked to people at ford , read everything I could online

and it sounded like that was the problem. The only other thing I can come

up with is ... some how I put it in wrong ? ... Or ... the the clutch fork is bent/

broken. The only reason I thank that the fork is not bad is that I'm not sure it

is an issue on an early '99 ( it's really a '98 ) but at this point I'm very upset

and low on funds. So if ANY ONE can shed some light on this I

will be for ever grateful and will name my next child after you if you can tell

me what the deal is or at least point me in the right direction !

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Old 06-03-2009, 09:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There was an issue with a batch of trucks that had defective throw-out forks. As I recall, they were made in such a way that they had a weak area in them, and after a lot of use, would bend or break. The new, replacement forks (from Ford) are of an updated design, and stronger in the subject area.

Sorry to give you bad news...but it sounds to me like you may need to pull the trans and check it out. Maybe you've got a bad clutch, too (?).

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I have a March '09. Last year my fork went, pretty much broke in half. You can tell by measuring the distance from the housing to the contact point on the fork vs the length of the slave cylinder rod. I don't know the exact measurement, but if its longer than the slave rod, I would think it's shot. It was not that bad to replace.
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not sure if this may help you or not... i ran into that same prob with a ford ranger a while back i like to drove me crazy! some ford mc have to be "pressure blead" there is a kit you can buy to do this but if you are really careful you can drill a smalle hole in the top of the reservoir and put a SMALL amount of air to it while someone is under the truck working the bleeder valve. watch your fluid (it drains fast) and no more then 5 or 10 psi otherwise the cap will blow off and brake fluid goes everywhere! remember brakefluid eats paint!!! its worth a try... if you have any more questions pm me
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some ford mc have to be "pressure blead" ...put a SMALL amount of air to it while someone is under the truck working the bleeder valve.
The Super duty clutch hydraulic system is all plastic. There are no bleeder valves in the system.

Ford does sell a pre-filled, pre-bled assembly (I think that's what the OP purchased and installed) which is highly recommended if you need to do any work on the system.



There is a factory in-vehicle bleeding procedure, but it's a PIA, and really does not work very well. But here it is:

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Or ... the the clutch fork is bent/broken. The only reason I thank that the fork is not bad is that I'm not sure it is an issue on an early '99 ( it's really a '98 )
The early Superduty trucks WERE the ones with the weak clutch fork. I have a 1/99 build (99.5) and when I changed the clutch I bought the newer fork and put it in, even though that wasn't the issue with my clutch. The new fork was definitely beefier than the original.

I'm guessing that the fork is your problem, and as the other guys said, you should be able to remove the slave and check for depth to the fork.
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To the OP... you said that after the prebled unit install you had what felt like proper pedal and it all seemed to work other than the clutch just wouldn't disengage? That would sound to me like a pressure plate or spring issue. No?
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Thank You all for the in put I have been out of town for a few days

on work. So first I will try and check the slave cylinder opening on

the trans. and see if thats the issue, It seems like a lot of work to

pull the trans. in the driveway, to replace the fork ( if thats it )

so I might call around at see how many millions of dollars it would

take to have a shop do it.

Thanks Again for all the info.
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