IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com
Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum
Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum
Go Back   Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com > 1999-2007 Ford Super Duties > 99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain

99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain Discussion of the 99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 1999-Up Super Duty trucks and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.

TheDieselstop.com is the premier Diesel Truck Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-15-2006, 01:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 396
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

Just a question, i have a old 6.9 navistar diesel and if i run out of fuel i have to bleed the fuel line through a scharder valve. My question is do i have to do anything special if we were to run out except add gas.

Just a curious question

Thank you
Dylan
__________________
Early 1999 PSD SC 4x4
Old user name: Noservice4you... it didnt sound welcoming.
Savageduty is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-15-2006, 01:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Klamath Falls, Or
Posts: 2,184
My Photos: (2)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

cycle the key a few times and crank her up.

Mike
kainers is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 02:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: IL.
Posts: 1,787
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

[ QUOTE ]
My question is do i have to do anything special if we were to run out except add gas.

[/ QUOTE ]
I hope you would not add gas to a diesel. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Seriously, I had to walk to the fuel station twice, it took 4 gal. of diesel to get my engine to prime after I ran out. Yes my truck was on level ground. It took quite a few key cycles to get fuel up to the engine. The bright side is I know exactly where empty is on my fuel gage. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif[/img]
__________________
"Mekka-lekka-hi, mekka-hiney-ho!"
Ggg6 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 02:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Klamath Falls, Or
Posts: 2,184
My Photos: (2)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

[ QUOTE ]
The bright side is I know exactly where empty is on my fuel gage. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

That is funny right there and true.I have had her cut out once.I begged for a fuel station and got one.Invest in a fuel pressure gauge.It will flutter when you are running out and when your fuel filter is clogged.
kainers is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 06:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,813
My Photos: (10)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

[ QUOTE ]
Just a question, i have a old 6.9 navistar diesel and if i run out of fuel i have to bleed the fuel line through a scharder valve. My question is do i have to do anything special if we were to run out except add gas.

Just a curious question

Thank you
Dylan

[/ QUOTE ]


to answer your curious question. Dont think it would be a good idea to add GAS to your out of fuel diesel [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
j_apetersen is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 07:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Naples fl
Posts: 3,954
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via ICQ to coldair
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

half a tank is my empty mark, I hate pushing a 9300lb block of steel and plastic
__________________
2002 Excursion LTD(PCM:NQW5)Pheltech Tru-Cowl Induction Hood BTS transmission FASS and ITP fuel system, 38/15.5/20 Toyo's on Weld 12" wide wheels,15k warn and warn 9.5k rear 4:30s ARB air lockers front and Dana80 rear. Trail ready front bumper,Road Armor rear bumper light force driving lights, PIAA backup lights,Dakota digital gages, F5 DP tuner chip,Hypermax stage 2 injectors,4" exhaust, 11" Edge lift, King shocks, edge crossover steering, ORU ram assist steering
OneUp ladder bars,TN turbo, Dynatrac conversion kit. Alpine F1, Zapco amps. two dc1100.1, three dc1000.4, 1 dc750.2, driving seas reference series front stage and Zapco competition rear fill and 2 Jl audio 13w7 subs
AP Racing big brakes, Amp Research running boards
coldair is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 07:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Central IL
Posts: 463
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

My early 99 ran dry once. Since my tank will only take 25.5 when the truck is sucking air.

The cycling the switch did not occur to me since I thought the fuel pump came on and ran until it got the pressure up.

Anyway it cranked right back up, but caused a huge roucus under the hood for a while.
__________________
Early 99 F 250, Walker Big Truck Muffler, CCV Mod, Otherwise bone stock at present.
HenryE is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 08:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Ashburn, Va. USA
Posts: 6,706
My Photos: (1)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

[ QUOTE ]
My early 99 ran dry once. Since my tank will only take 25.5 when the truck is sucking air.

The cycling the switch did not occur to me since I thought the fuel pump came on and ran until it got the pressure up.

Anyway it cranked right back up, but caused a huge roucus under the hood for a while.

[/ QUOTE ]

Electric pumps will run 5-15 seconds depending on the manufacture. They don't monitor pressure they just run.

Wayne B
__________________
2000 F-250 XLT PSD 4X4 ESOF Auto, SC, LB, Gauges, Mag-HyTech Trans Pan & Rear End Cover, <font color="red"> (((XM))) Inside</font>, ATV Racks w/ Two Kawasaki Prairie 400 4X4's sitting on them, 25' Rockwood TT. Ashburn, Va. Member # 103 Pictures

www.CarpathiaHost.com
Wayne B is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 09:06 AM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
haul_n_horses2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 9,919
My Photos: (17)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

[ QUOTE ]
Invest in a fuel pressure gauge.It will flutter when you are running out and when your fuel filter is clogged.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree completely. I have a SPA tech digital fuel pressure gauge with the transducer in the return pressure regulator in place of the analog gauge. I have the visual alarm set for 55 psi. My return is set for 72 psi. The fuel pressure is usually rock steady but on returning from a horse show in Ontario, I was running on fumes by the time I got home. Went around a corner just 2 miles from the fuel station and the warning light on the gauge blinked. I watched the gauge all the way to the station and never dropped pressure again. The overhead gauge said 10 miles to empty when I pulled in. Filled up and it took 42 gallons!

I normally refill the tank when it gets down to 1/2 full but when it hit 1/2 tank, we were way out in the boonies, many miles from a truck stop.
__________________
2002 F350 Lariat CC 4x4 Auto 4.10 DRW, DP-Tuner F5 live tuned stock, quiet, 40dd, 40, 60, 80 tow, 80e and 120r, B&W GN, BrakeSmart, 'pooned tank, tank and pre-pump mods, 2 Dahl 100 filter, regulated return, BTS dual HPOP, AC singles with EDM 34 lpm nozzles, AIS, H2e, Spearco 6.0 IC, Hypermax 3.5" dp--> MBRP 4" 304SS exhaust, BTS tranny, 203 T-stat, Chevron ELC, coolant filter, Oilguard bypass with Schaeffer 9000, WranglerNW 200 amp alternator & Optima group 31 batteries, Nippon-Denso starter, SPA gauges, SteveRacer mods, Hella 80/100W 9007s, Hella Micro DE foglights, 1000FF driving lights, 220W backup lights, Stancor contactor, Michelin XPS Traction tires, X-Springs, Bilstein shox, custom bumpers but otherwise stock. Nov 30 '99 build engine with 16 K miles, Fluidampr, Comp Cam 910 springs, Melling LPOP and ARP headstuds.
haul_n_horses2 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 12:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Central Indiana, U.S.A.
Posts: 3,250
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

I went through that agony ONCE with my old Brand G and vowed never again. Quarter tank is my "Don't pass the next diesel pump regardless of price!" point. Normally somewhere between 400 and 500 miles is my point of looking for fuel.

I hear of guys talking about miles per tankful and think "Now there's a gluton for punishment."
__________________
'00 F-350, 4x2, 6 Speed AIC 210,000 miles
3.08:1 Gears
Fuel tank mods: MaroonHarpoon, Pre-Pump,
Evans, 203 degree thermostat, Poor Man's Tymar, 4" Single SS Exhaust, Rugged Air Dam
225-75x16E tires in front 235-85x16Es in back, tires aired up to 100 psi, Lowered 4" in front and 6" in back, "Fastback" bed fairing
21.3 MPG before mods
27.0 MPG tested with mods
Dave Whitmer is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 12:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Central IL
Posts: 463
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

Jees Dave, I have dust blowing aound in my tank at 200 miles. Bout that time I can notice wth wife leaning over and monitoring the fuel guage. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
__________________
Early 99 F 250, Walker Big Truck Muffler, CCV Mod, Otherwise bone stock at present.
HenryE is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-15-2006, 12:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Central IL
Posts: 463
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

Wayne

i need to know more about the system. I must have been wrong upstairs all this time. So what tells the elec fuel pump to come back on and boost more fuel up.

Or does it run without the fuel pump after the initial pump up?

I donno [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
__________________
Early 99 F 250, Walker Big Truck Muffler, CCV Mod, Otherwise bone stock at present.
HenryE is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-16-2006, 09:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
hutchinaugusta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Augusta, Ga.
Posts: 2,983
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

If this is a diesel with an injection pump and a steel line going to the spray nozzle (injector) at each cylinder then you will need to bleed the air from the injection pump (usually a fitting on top of the pump can be removed till MOSTLY fuel comes out ) and try to start the engine, if it will not start you will need to bleed the air from the injection lines also. One line at a time break the nut loose at the spray nozzle (injector) and crank the engine, when fuel spirts out more than air tighten the nut, repeat on all lines or till the engine fires. Once it fires the other lines may purge themselves, if not remember which line you have NOT done as you will need to bleed them also. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
__________________
NEW TRUCK: 2011 F250 6.7 Crew Cab 4X4 Lariat, 20" Alloy's, Balck Ext. Tan Leather Interior, Navigation, Sunroof, Spray In Liner, ETC.


RETIRED: 99 F250 2WD LARIAT CREW CAB, 3.73,NMN1 REFLASH WITH "MILD" ASE MECHANIC PROGRAM (TOTALLY AWESOME) TRANS-GO SHIFT KIT W/LATE MODEL SERVO PACK FROM BRIAN's, BILSTEIN, AIS AIR FILTER ASSEMBLY, PILLAR W/BOOST & PYRO, DUAL FUEL BY-PASS CIRCUITS W/AEROMOTIVE REGULATOR AND RESTRICTED RETURNS @ HEADS, "HUTCH MOD" FUEL SUPPLY AND TANK MODS, 2002 INNERCOOLER W/ENGINE BLOW-BY RE-ROUTED, OWNER FABRICATED 4" TURBO BACK EXHAUST WITH BIG RIG MUFFLER, Q-FORMS W/DYNAUDIO FT., FOCAL DRIVERS IN CUSTOM ENCLOSURES REAR, JL AUDIO STEALTH BOX, ADCOM & NAKAMICHI AMPS, CLARION PRO HEAD UNIT, LINE X BED LINER, ROLL N LOCK COVER, 01 LARIAT WHEELS, LED'S IN OVERHEAD CONSOLE, LIGHTS OVER RUNNING BOARDS & IN BED http://community.webshots.com/user/hutchinaugusta</span>
hutchinaugusta is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-16-2006, 02:44 PM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: San Clemente, CA
Posts: 396
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

Sorry, my mistake. When i said gas i ment to say diesel. But thanks for the help.

NOSERVICE4YOU
__________________
Early 1999 PSD SC 4x4
Old user name: Noservice4you... it didnt sound welcoming.
Savageduty is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-16-2006, 06:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: LA, CA. USA
Posts: 138
My Photos: (0)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Re: IF YOU RUN OUT OF FUEL, WHAT DO YOU DO

Just in case.....I keep a 5 Gal. container of fuel locked up in the bed of the truck. I dump a little in If I think I am getting close to running out while looking for a station that sells diesel a few cents lower than the last place I past.
__________________
2001 PSD Super Duty F350 XLT 2WD SRW Shorty 4SPD. BD Performance Trans.& Conv. K&N Air Filter,Line-X, Mag Hytec Diff. Cover, BD-Exh.Brake, Elec.trans.cooler,3-gauges/A pillar. 2003 Alpenlite 32ft Augusta 5er.
Firestone Air Bags. Michelin XPS LT 235/85R 16/E
1 Choc. Lab.
Dozer Don is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com > 1999-2007 Ford Super Duties > 99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Wheel & Tire Center

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:28 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.