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99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain Discussion of the 99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 1999-Up Super Duty trucks and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.

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Old 11-24-2012, 04:03 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah my ECT numbers are definitely off the wall. I am wondering are the diagrams in Alldata pretty decent on these trucks? I have a '92 Z28 and they are right on the money but on a '91 S10 Blazer I used to own it was touch and go. Where did you come up with a DVD for these trucks? That would be nice to have. Have not even started the 7.3 today been cleaning up the garage things were getting piled up and in mass confusion so I decided to let it rest for the day. I am kind of thinking in the back of my mind if I may have a bad fuel issue. Last week coming back from Daytona Beach to see my son I stopped to refuel at a small fuel station north of Macon GA that was kind of a seedy place. I may drain the tank and remove it to see if that could be an issue, I want to do the harpoon mod anyway maybe the Hutch mod anyway.
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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After re-reading your post I see you have the Ford 00-03 Service CD.
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I picked up the 99 Service CD from a tech organization for a "donation".

The 01-03 Service DVD I got off eBay. Watch out for pirated copies (not allowed by eBay rules).

I can't comment on the accuracy of the AllData stuff, as I've never used it.

As I posted earlier in the thread, even the Official Ford stuff isn't infallable. The 99 CD has caused more than one member here to snap off water pump bolts using the 35 ft-lb from the CD that should have been 18 ft-lb. I've found some other messed up stuff in the wiring diagrams as well, such as the pinout chart on the 42-pin connector above the valve cover.

With the sludge you got out of the filter bowl, it's very possible that you got some bad fuel. It sure can't hurt to clean the fuel system up and do the hutch and in-tank mods. If the filter bowl had sludge in it, it's very possible the fine screens in the mixing chamber inside the tank are gunked up also. A serviceable in-line pre-pump filter is a much better idea.
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Kevin,

Yes, the wiring diagram is based off of an '02 and later 7.3L. The diagram is not off the CD I have nor the wiring diagram manual I have. It was something I found online through EBSCO Host I believe. It has been a while since I got them, I just recently had the time to stitch them together and color them.

You are right about issues with the OEM manuals. I have similar issues with the CD I have. The wiring diagram book I have states it is "revised" and has much more reliable information.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:35 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Does this appear to be the same thing:
FORD FAMILY 2000-2003 Service Repair Manual [ALL MODELS, Incl 6.0 7.3L] DVD | eBay

Looks like it is less expensive than I expected, I remember Helms manuals costing many times that. Also I am going to source the materials to do the Hutch mod and pull the tank next week-end and also do the Harpoon mod plus pick up a new ICP sensor. I will let you know the results at that time.
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I bought that out of curiosity - its a joke. It runs in a virtual computer (VMWare), its buggy, and once you get to the manual, its less comprehensive than a Haynes manual from the auto parts store. It won't even run on my laptops. If you want some real info for a good price, try the ALLDATADIY.
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I bought that out of curiosity - its a joke. It runs in a virtual computer (VMWare), its buggy, and once you get to the manual, its less comprehensive than a Haynes manual from the auto parts store. It won't even run on my laptops. If you want some real info for a good price, try the ALLDATADIY.

Yeah that is what I was afraid of, in my almost 40 years of doing my own maintenance I've found that Haynes manuals is ok if all you do is oil changes and an occasional tune up but other than that it is a good fire starter. I do use AllData DIY. Just looking to see if there is a better source

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ECT readings

As far as the ECT reading goes if you have an idiot gauge (needle with high low range) you will get the "off the wall" readings your are seeing with the AE. I have a van with the idiot gauge and when I hooked up the AE and it too started at 130 then shot to 300 so I got another sending unit from Napa thinking mine was bad and that gave me the correct reading using the AE but the idiot gauge wouldn't work right - would go to the cold line and stay there. I went to ford and got the correct sending unit for my van and the idiot gauge works but the AE shows off the wall readings again. There are two different sending units, one for exact temp displays and one for idiot gauges. So if you have the idiot style gauge I would disregard the reading your getting from the AE. I monitor my engine oil temp as a backup to the idiot gauge... Unloaded the oil temp stays around 190/200, loaded to 15k (total trailer and van) goes to 212/220 when pulling hills...
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Thanks, good info.
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I am sourcing parts for the Hutch mod on my '03 F250 and knowing I am deleting the filter screens in tank what kind of filter would work well as a suction filter without adding an additional fuel pump as shown in Guzzle's mod page. Is this additional low pressure pump he is using necessary?
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I used a System 1 75 micron in-line filter pre-pump. It's been on there for 5 or 6 years without any issues. I know it's a bit coarse, but it's good enough to get the big chunks out and protect the fuel pump. I got it from Diesel Manor.
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Thanks I can always cound on you guys, your the best.

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Well this morning I replaced the ICP sensor on my F-250 and so far so good. Driving to work not so much as a hiccup. I could not scan it due to the fact I had to re-format my laptop a couple of days ago and AE was not set up yet. I need to get a dedicated laptop for automotive use. Still planning to do the fuel tank tomorrow but thankfully the engine is OK. I have sourced most parts to do the job. Thanks for the advice and support you guys are awesome.

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