99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 1999-Up Super Duty trucks and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.
39 degrees outside. Tried toi start and it spun w no fire at all. Tried again and spun it for about 45 secoinds with no fire. Noticed a white billowy cloud of smoke pouring out the tailpipe that covered the truck like a cloud. Dense, not like water vapor. SHuit off the key, waited for the preheater thing to tell me OK to start, then it fired right up but a little juimpy for about 3 seconds. No more dense white smoke---just a little vapor type light exhausdt5 for about 15 seconds.
My question is what in the world was all the dense white smoke if the engine wasnt firing at all??? Will un burned diesel fuel turn into that from the compression? Cant figure out why it wouldnt start. It hasnt done it since. New batteries, new starter than really spins the snot out of it.
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2001 F-350 Lariat,CC,LB,SRW,4X4,Auto,7.3,2"lift,KYBs, 3.73, steel oil x-over, aFe Stage II Pro 7, AirCond mod, Fumoto, DP 60,80,100. AIH Delete, hi-lite/fog-lite on mod. Dead bird in grill. Part of finger in new ball joint nut.
You'll have to check your glowplugs and/or glow plug relay first. If they don't work, you'll get a lot of white smoke and have a hard time starting the truck in cold weather.
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1999.5 F250 creeping up on 400k.
To rule out the plugs you can jumper cable across the glow plug relay and see if it fires right up. If it does the problem is the relay. White smoke 45 seconds of cranking=no glow plugs turned on. FYI If it is the GPR, I replaced mine with 2 GPR in parallel. One to the left bank and one to the right bank.
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My guess would be the Glow Plug Relay (GPR). I just had to change mine out from similar problems. Sometimes the relay will not turn on, causing the glow plugs not to fire, and the truck not to start.
To test; make sure the truck is cold so you have the glow plugs on for the longest possible time. Take your multimeter and check the two main leads on the GPR (the two biggest ones). The left is what goes in and should read ~12V, the right is too the glow plugs and should be within .3V of the lead. If not your GPR is bad and should be less than $50 and an easy replace. Be sure to test multiple times so you know you didn't get lucky and it click on!
Man. These diesels are just a money pit. So many electrical doodads. I have been replacing things ever since I bought it. Wish they could be like a good old tractor diesel without all the expensive crappola. I have so many extra sets of relays, switches, whatevers in my glove box now. Just had to do the entire front end agin after 45,000 miles. Ball joints were almost non existant! SWay bar ends, etc etc. I dont even pull anything or take it over 55. Its been a 'go to market' vehicle for 75,000 miles ever since I couldnt afford to keep my daughter in horses. ANd brakes?? Just around twon with the stop n go---WOW I go through pads. Never rotor wear though---I just keep slapping on pads.
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2001 F-350 Lariat,CC,LB,SRW,4X4,Auto,7.3,2"lift,KYBs, 3.73, steel oil x-over, aFe Stage II Pro 7, AirCond mod, Fumoto, DP 60,80,100. AIH Delete, hi-lite/fog-lite on mod. Dead bird in grill. Part of finger in new ball joint nut.
Man. These diesels are just a money pit. So many electrical doodads. I have been replacing things ever since I bought it. Wish they could be like a good old tractor diesel without all the expensive crappola. I have so many extra sets of relays, switches, whatevers in my glove box now. Just had to do the entire front end agin after 45,000 miles. Ball joints were almost non existant! SWay bar ends, etc etc. I dont even pull anything or take it over 55. Its been a 'go to market' vehicle for 75,000 miles ever since I couldnt afford to keep my daughter in horses. ANd brakes?? Just around twon with the stop n go---WOW I go through pads. Never rotor wear though---I just keep slapping on pads.
Why are these diesels just money pits? I don't understand. Sounds like regular maintenance issues to me. Visitors to this site might be apprehensive about a diesel pickup after reading this thread.
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Nick
2000 F-250 4x4, extra cab, long box, six speed stick, four inch turbo back exhaust, ported turbo housing, ts chip, ccv delete, boost and pyrometer gauges, Bully Dog GT Tuner used for gauges only now
Oh come on! The things have WAY more items controlling everything than gas engines. Ive had to replace so many doodads here and there---yeah they may be 29 to 75 bucks but Fords labor is gigantic. If not for this place Id be about $3000 poorer. Now my fuel control device (Gas pedal to lay people) has a big flat spot in it, which is mentioned in a long going class action suit. Ya cant just get under the hood and fix things like on my dinosaur chevy 350. Man, the glow plugs, relays, harness things under the vale covers, etc etc. And, the heavy front ends wear parts out. At least they do for me and its a highway ride only. Possibly I just have bad luck? In fact---I have to go start a new thread right now because of something that just happened! It will be titled 'Whats the strange new alarm sound '.under my dash
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2001 F-350 Lariat,CC,LB,SRW,4X4,Auto,7.3,2"lift,KYBs, 3.73, steel oil x-over, aFe Stage II Pro 7, AirCond mod, Fumoto, DP 60,80,100. AIH Delete, hi-lite/fog-lite on mod. Dead bird in grill. Part of finger in new ball joint nut.
Oh come on! The things have WAY more items controlling everything than gas engines. Ive had to replace so many doodads here and there---yeah they may be 29 to 75 bucks but Fords labor is gigantic. If not for this place Id be about $3000 poorer. Now my fuel control device (Gas pedal to lay people) has a big flat spot in it, which is mentioned in a long going class action suit. Ya cant just get under the hood and fix things like on my dinosaur chevy 350. Man, the glow plugs, relays, harness things under the vale covers, etc etc. And, the heavy front ends wear parts out. At least they do for me and its a highway ride only. Possibly I just have bad luck? In fact---I have to go start a new thread right now because of something that just happened! It will be titled 'Whats the strange new alarm sound '.under my dash
how are our front ends heavy? in your earlier post you said you never took it over 55 and its a go to market vehicle. and now its a highway ride only you come on man I think you do have bad luck Im 650 miles from my home and have to work tomorrow too and I have no doubt my pickup will start and get me to work so I can provide for my family and if I need to get home in a hurry Ill hitch up and drag my camper home with out even checking my oil. So please sir quit bashing the pickups that are responsible for feeding so many families in our country.
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Nick
2000 F-250 4x4, extra cab, long box, six speed stick, four inch turbo back exhaust, ported turbo housing, ts chip, ccv delete, boost and pyrometer gauges, Bully Dog GT Tuner used for gauges only now
12+ year old vehicles with over 100,000 miles on them are going to have problems. Consider yourself lucky to have as minor problems as your having. If not, I know a lot of people, myself included, who would be willing to take your 'money pit' off your hand and handle it just fine.
Oh come on! The things have WAY more items controlling everything than gas engines. Ive had to replace so many doodads here and there---yeah they may be 29 to 75 bucks but Fords labor is gigantic. If not for this place Id be about $3000 poorer. Now my fuel control device (Gas pedal to lay people) has a big flat spot in it, which is mentioned in a long going class action suit. Ya cant just get under the hood and fix things like on my dinosaur chevy 350. Man, the glow plugs, relays, harness things under the vale covers, etc etc. And, the heavy front ends wear parts out. At least they do for me and its a highway ride only. Possibly I just have bad luck? In fact---I have to go start a new thread right now because of something that just happened! It will be titled 'Whats the strange new alarm sound '.under my dash
im sure your just frustrated....ive been there,,,,BUT in reality gas engines have just as many maint issues on electrtical/engine parts.....distributor,coil,ignition module.....timing belts/its really kinda a wash.i think its just that the diesel has different so many operating systems that people dont understand ,it becomes very frustrating........GOOD LUCK
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2002 f250 lariat 7.3 220k(motor has 190k)
original 4r100 tranny....220k and counting
knock on wood....
red elc good for 150k
4r100 1-2 2-3 3-4sonnax accumulator valves,.427 sonnax line pressure mod valve
4.125"yes thats 4 1/8" diy tymar intake(size matters...lol)
AIH delete,ccv delete,zoodad mod,
4" exhaust no muff
built my own leafs for 4.0 of lift!!!!!!
18" xd bronze revolvers with 325 nittos to wrap them
isspro pyro and boost guages on pillar mount....
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[QUOTE=tattoocharlie;2256457]im sure your just frustrated....ive been there,,,, diesel has different so many operating systems that people dont understand ,it becomes very frustrating........GOOD LUCK[
That makes sense For some of you other guys, you sound like the kind who would have been sitting on the banks in Boston, watching the tea party, shaking your heads and saying: "Its the best thing going, why not shut up and accept it?" Either that or you work for Ford, LOL
If I wasnt at least PARTIALLY right on this place wouldnt exist.
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2001 F-350 Lariat,CC,LB,SRW,4X4,Auto,7.3,2"lift,KYBs, 3.73, steel oil x-over, aFe Stage II Pro 7, AirCond mod, Fumoto, DP 60,80,100. AIH Delete, hi-lite/fog-lite on mod. Dead bird in grill. Part of finger in new ball joint nut.
i dont know how to take what you just said.............i def dont work for ford......and i actually wouldve been part of the tea party.dont get me started on politics.maybe you should sell your truck and buy a civic....i dont work for honda either...lol
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2002 f250 lariat 7.3 220k(motor has 190k)
original 4r100 tranny....220k and counting
knock on wood....
red elc good for 150k
4r100 1-2 2-3 3-4sonnax accumulator valves,.427 sonnax line pressure mod valve
4.125"yes thats 4 1/8" diy tymar intake(size matters...lol)
AIH delete,ccv delete,zoodad mod,
4" exhaust no muff
built my own leafs for 4.0 of lift!!!!!!
18" xd bronze revolvers with 325 nittos to wrap them
isspro pyro and boost guages on pillar mount....
Guys I wasnt trying to start a war or anti Ford campaign. Thesdew things can be very expensive to maintain and have a lot of system devices, computers, blah balh that go bad. I have 175,000 on it now and in the last 3 years have replaced many smaller things that all add up. Most wouldnt have been to costly if I had the test equipment to know what was wrong or the ability to fix/install them.
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2001 F-350 Lariat,CC,LB,SRW,4X4,Auto,7.3,2"lift,KYBs, 3.73, steel oil x-over, aFe Stage II Pro 7, AirCond mod, Fumoto, DP 60,80,100. AIH Delete, hi-lite/fog-lite on mod. Dead bird in grill. Part of finger in new ball joint nut.
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2002 f250 lariat 7.3 220k(motor has 190k)
original 4r100 tranny....220k and counting
knock on wood....
red elc good for 150k
4r100 1-2 2-3 3-4sonnax accumulator valves,.427 sonnax line pressure mod valve
4.125"yes thats 4 1/8" diy tymar intake(size matters...lol)
AIH delete,ccv delete,zoodad mod,
4" exhaust no muff
built my own leafs for 4.0 of lift!!!!!!
18" xd bronze revolvers with 325 nittos to wrap them
isspro pyro and boost guages on pillar mount....
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