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Old 09-24-2010, 06:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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SuperTech Tranny Fluid???

Does anyone know who manufactures the SuperTech line of tranny fluid?? Or am I better off using Castrol fluid??
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You will have to do a little research as to which fluid you are getting ready to buy. Super Tech can be made by several different companies. Most commonly Warren Distributing is who bottles the fluid for Wal-Mart. Depending on the type (Type F, Mercon/Dextron, Multi-Use) it can vary who actually makes the fluid. The best thing you can do is MSDS searches. This data must be available online and each place has to keep it as a public record. You can search Wal-Marts MSDS information HERE just type in transmission fluid into the product name box and click search. Warren Distributing also has an MSDS Search HERE, Same thing, just type in transmission into the description box. you will find Warren gets their product from various vendors, so based on what product you are using will determine who made it, or at least where it came from.

Many people use the Super Tech, if it is rated as Mercon V you are ok. Or use the Castrol fluid, your choice.
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Does anyone know who manufactures the SuperTech line of tranny fluid?? Or am I better off using Castrol fluid??
If you have to ask that question, you are questioning the quality.

stick with an ATF that can handle the most temperature before turning into smoke. your wallet and your truck will go alot longer without stopping to take anything out along the way.

I use a universal ATF that can last many times longer than most others, I know cause I have been testing this fluid for the past 13 years

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While I normally agree with everything woodnthings8 says - here is one where we differ. I would not use Mercon V if the Mercon/Dexron compatible is there. That is what your tranny was designed to run. Yes, Ford changed their recipe on Mercon V to make it backwards compatible - although multiple people have experienced problems with the new formulation. The ONLY reason they did that was their licensing ability over Mercon was running out, and they get paid a ton of money by companies who put their classifications on the bottle.

In other words, the ONLY reason Ford authorized Mercon V in our trannies was so they could keep making money on the licensing.

The tranny was designed for Mercon. It runs best on Mercon. You can still get good quality Mercon compatible fluids from brand name suppliers. Why risk a fluid that has to be somewhere in the middle of Mercon and "original formula" Mercon V just so it can run in a multitude of different equipment? And, the same goes for multi-vehicle / universal / runs in anything fluids. They have to be a compromise of friction additives and other properties to work in that many applications.
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While I normally agree with everything woodnthings8 says - here is one where we differ. I would not use Mercon V if the Mercon/Dexron compatible is there. That is what your tranny was designed to run. Yes, Ford changed their recipe on Mercon V to make it backwards compatible - although multiple people have experienced problems with the new formulation. The ONLY reason they did that was their licensing ability over Mercon was running out, and they get paid a ton of money by companies who put their classifications on the bottle.

In other words, the ONLY reason Ford authorized Mercon V in our trannies was so they could keep making money on the licensing.

The tranny was designed for Mercon. It runs best on Mercon. You can still get good quality Mercon compatible fluids from brand name suppliers. Why risk a fluid that has to be somewhere in the middle of Mercon and "original formula" Mercon V just so it can run in a multitude of different equipment? And, the same goes for multi-vehicle / universal / runs in anything fluids. They have to be a compromise of friction additives and other properties to work in that many applications.
A shining example here of why the API is worthless. total confusion when it comes to specific lubricant for the Job.

Then is is absolutly hilarious that Many companies offer universal ATF to eliminate the confusion

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Then is is absolutly hilarious that Many companies offer universal ATF to eliminate the confusion
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It is hilarious - but they do it for a reason.

Many companies also offer one size fits all clothing. I guess they want to cash in on the fact that some people are too stupid or uninformed to know exactly what their vehicles need. (or what size clothes they wear...)

I personally will go on wearing suits that are my size and using the correct fluids for the job...
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It is hilarious - but they do it for a reason.

Many companies also offer one size fits all clothing. I guess they want to cash in on the fact that some people are too stupid or uninformed to know exactly what their vehicles need. (or what size clothes they wear...)

I personally will go on wearing suits that are my size and using the correct fluids for the job...
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While I normally agree with everything woodnthings8 says - here is one where we differ. I would not use Mercon V if the Mercon/Dexron compatible is there.
Don't disagree at all with that. The one reason I usually will recommend the Mercon V is the fact the chemical make up is controlled by the specification. Since Mercon/Dextron III are no longer authorized to be made the specifications are no longer scrutinized. Now most of the bigger manufactures are most likely 100% legit on what they make. But with it being so easy to make a product that says "just like" you have to think about where they make compromises to save money. (We have all seen the recalls because of Melamine fillers in human and pet foods manufactured in other countries). Not part of the original recipe, but added anyway!

I would have no problem using the Chevron MD3 or another name brand product similar to Mercon/Dextron III in my truck if I had the original transmission, but since it has been replaced and was specifically marked to use Mercon V. I stick to the latest specs.
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I've been told that it's Valvoline who makes the SuperTech Merc/dex for Wally world. So yes I was questioning it's quality still thinking about getting the Castrol Mec/DexIII thou
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The last time I bought supertech transmission fluid I was told by the GM of the wallys jthat when they scan the product with the inventory scanner it say exxon mobil. I put it in an expedition with no problems. Logged about 10K since doing the tranny service. Ive used it in some saturns with no problems. Would I used it in a $4K diesel transmission ummmm...probably not.
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