99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 1999-Up Super Duty trucks and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.
So today I received the replacement....and it has the same 105A tag on it. For those of you that bought the 135A alternators from DB, do you have a 105 A tag on it?
Could they have made a mistake two times in a row? I will have to call them on Monday to see what's up.
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UPDATE: I spoke with DB again today. Anyhow, the guy on the phone was surprised by the 105A vs 135A question. He went and looked at the alternators he had in stock and sure enough they are 105 and NOT 135 as advertised.
Their customer service was good, and they offered to refund my money. Even at 105A, I figured $120 was pretty reasonable, so I will keep it. It would have been nice to have a 135A model, as ordered, but o'well.
'99 and '99.5 SuperDuty pickups with gas engines came with 105 amp altenator. Diesels came with 130 amp.
2009 SuperDuty pickups with diesel engine come with 135-amp altenator. 200-amp single altenator is optional. Dual altenators with 160 amps each are also optional.
In a nutshell, that altenator intended for use with a gasoline engine is probably not quite enough for your glow-plug equipped diesel pickup. I'd send it back and demand at least 130 amp replacement. Probably this one: FORD F TRUCK 7.3L 98 99 00 01 DB HIGH OUTPUT ALTERNATOR 200 AMP
Yeah, I know. That one cost twice as much. But it will do the job.
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I sure hope they know something about electrical, because they don't even know how to spell the state they're in......."In business for 26 years in Eastern Tenessee".
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'99 and '99.5 SuperDuty pickups with gas engines came with 105 amp altenator. Diesels came with 130 amp.
2009 SuperDuty pickups with diesel engine come with 135-amp altenator. 200-amp single altenator is optional. Dual altenators with 160 amps each are also optional.
In a nutshell, that altenator intended for use with a gasoline engine is probably not quite enough for your glow-plug equipped diesel pickup. I'd send it back and demand at least 130 amp replacement. Probably this one: FORD F TRUCK 7.3L 98 99 00 01 DB HIGH OUTPUT ALTERNATOR 200 AMP
Yeah, I know. That one cost twice as much. But it will do the job.
Smokey, I thought the diesels came with 130 amp alts also...That is what I told the guy from DB and he told me they all came with 105. I replied that I believed only the gassers came with 105 and the diesels came with 130...he insisted I was wrong. I guess he was wrong!
If that is the case, I will send it back to them. Now I need to find a different alternator!
Everyone on this list raves about how great DB Alternator is. Their customer service is great, but now I am not sure how much they know about alternators?
__________________ TDS member #49 - 1999.5 (Built 4/26/99) White F350, CC, SRW, LWB, Lariat, AIC, 4R100 (4th transmission before 85k - gotta love this tranny), 6.0 trans cooler, manual shift 4wd, 3 inch leveling kit, KING reservoir shocks, 285-75-16 Bridgestone REVOs, Performance Friction Pads all around, Powerslot Cryo'd rotors in front, CD player, Infinity REF 6800CS speakers (front and rear), Garmin 2610 GPS (hardwired), 40/20/40 leather seats, heated turn signal- TT mirrors, Titan V hitch, weatherguard box, DP Tuner 4 Position chip (love it), AIS intake, Diesel Site CAC Boots, 4" Magnaflow exhaust, Diesel Innovations Up Pipe, gutted EBPV, Non EBPV Turbo Pedestal, X-Monitor. NO STEERING WHEN BRAKES ARE APPLIED!
Where is that alternator made? Does it have a mfg name on it?
World Power Systems is the mfg of the alternator I got from DB. If you go to this thread Got my DB Alternator - got a question? you can see a picture of the label that is on the alternator itself.
So besides DB, any other places I should look at in getting a true replacement for my diesel. The DB high amp alternator is a good price at $199, I am just not so sure on how accurate their advertising is anymore???
__________________ TDS member #49 - 1999.5 (Built 4/26/99) White F350, CC, SRW, LWB, Lariat, AIC, 4R100 (4th transmission before 85k - gotta love this tranny), 6.0 trans cooler, manual shift 4wd, 3 inch leveling kit, KING reservoir shocks, 285-75-16 Bridgestone REVOs, Performance Friction Pads all around, Powerslot Cryo'd rotors in front, CD player, Infinity REF 6800CS speakers (front and rear), Garmin 2610 GPS (hardwired), 40/20/40 leather seats, heated turn signal- TT mirrors, Titan V hitch, weatherguard box, DP Tuner 4 Position chip (love it), AIS intake, Diesel Site CAC Boots, 4" Magnaflow exhaust, Diesel Innovations Up Pipe, gutted EBPV, Non EBPV Turbo Pedestal, X-Monitor. NO STEERING WHEN BRAKES ARE APPLIED!
Smokey, I thought the diesels came with 130 amp alts also...That is what I told the guy from DB and he told me they all came with 105. I replied that I believed only the gassers came with 105 and the diesels came with 130...he insisted I was wrong. I guess he was wrong!
Depends on the model year. For '99, '99.5 and Y2K model years, diesels came with 130 amp altenators. But for 2001 they came with 105 amp altenators. I didn't look up the other years, but by 2008 they were back up to 130 amp with the diesel engine.
Depends on the model year. For '99, '99.5 and Y2K model years, diesels came with 130 amp altenators. But for 2001 they came with 105 amp altenators. I didn't look up the other years, but by 2008 they were back up to 130 amp with the diesel engine.
hmmmm, wonder why they dropped it down to 105? The fact they went back to 130, seems to indicate it was a bad idea to have dropped to 105????
It seems that many parts books simply lump the years together and call it a 105 amp.
__________________ TDS member #49 - 1999.5 (Built 4/26/99) White F350, CC, SRW, LWB, Lariat, AIC, 4R100 (4th transmission before 85k - gotta love this tranny), 6.0 trans cooler, manual shift 4wd, 3 inch leveling kit, KING reservoir shocks, 285-75-16 Bridgestone REVOs, Performance Friction Pads all around, Powerslot Cryo'd rotors in front, CD player, Infinity REF 6800CS speakers (front and rear), Garmin 2610 GPS (hardwired), 40/20/40 leather seats, heated turn signal- TT mirrors, Titan V hitch, weatherguard box, DP Tuner 4 Position chip (love it), AIS intake, Diesel Site CAC Boots, 4" Magnaflow exhaust, Diesel Innovations Up Pipe, gutted EBPV, Non EBPV Turbo Pedestal, X-Monitor. NO STEERING WHEN BRAKES ARE APPLIED!
It seems that every time someone posts something here or any other diesel board about DB Electrical it goes from bad to worse.
For example, on another board, there was a group buy for the so-called high power alternator from DB, it was supposed to 220 amps IRC. The guy who did the group buy tested them and couldn't get more than 150 or so. All 14 were returned. DB said it was a "mistake". We're supposed to believe that they tested a 220 amp alternator, got only 150 amps and missed it 14 times in a row. Right.
Here, someone orders a 130 amp alternator, it's actually a 105 and when it gets replaced, they replace it with another 105 amp alternator. How stupid is that?
I haven't decided whether these guys are either really, really stupid or they're just con artists. In any event, I'll never buy from them.
It seems that every time someone posts something here or any other diesel board about DB Electrical it goes from bad to worse.
For example, on another board, there was a group buy for the so-called high power alternator from DB, it was supposed to 220 amps IRC. The guy who did the group buy tested them and couldn't get more than 150 or so. All 14 were returned. DB said it was a "mistake". We're supposed to believe that they tested a 220 amp alternator, got only 150 amps and missed it 14 times in a row. Right.
Here, someone orders a 130 amp alternator, it's actually a 105 and when it gets replaced, they replace it with another 105 amp alternator. How stupid is that?
I haven't decided whether these guys are either really, really stupid or they're just con artists. In any event, I'll never buy from them.
Albin, Funny what you wrote. Prior to buying an alternator I did a search for DB on this board. Can't search that short, so I landed up going through hundreds of "alternator" posts. I couldnt find much negative, but there was some. So I started a new post - asking about anyone having had problems with DB - and it seemed that everyone believed that DB was the cat's meow. With that and then the fact they sold a 135 amp alternator for $100 + shipping, I figured I couldnt go wrong. I guess it was too good to be true.
If anyone has a recomendation for another alternator mfg that is reasnably priced - I am listening.
__________________ TDS member #49 - 1999.5 (Built 4/26/99) White F350, CC, SRW, LWB, Lariat, AIC, 4R100 (4th transmission before 85k - gotta love this tranny), 6.0 trans cooler, manual shift 4wd, 3 inch leveling kit, KING reservoir shocks, 285-75-16 Bridgestone REVOs, Performance Friction Pads all around, Powerslot Cryo'd rotors in front, CD player, Infinity REF 6800CS speakers (front and rear), Garmin 2610 GPS (hardwired), 40/20/40 leather seats, heated turn signal- TT mirrors, Titan V hitch, weatherguard box, DP Tuner 4 Position chip (love it), AIS intake, Diesel Site CAC Boots, 4" Magnaflow exhaust, Diesel Innovations Up Pipe, gutted EBPV, Non EBPV Turbo Pedestal, X-Monitor. NO STEERING WHEN BRAKES ARE APPLIED!
I had a "200" Amp DB alternator for aabout 20 months. (I had a 5 alternator in 6 month deal where I was scared to death of my alt lasting. (Turned out the tensioner and or the idler pulleys must have been bad.) I replaced them and it lasted this long now. I JUST bought the DB HI torque starter. (I LOVE IT so far) However a week after I got the starter and installed it. HOWEVER, my 200 amp starter went out, (Chattering) on me at that time. I pulled the belt, and didn't even check the alternator, I had a bit of fluid around the PS pump shaft, and it felt funny. So I replaced the PS pump. Put everything back togeather, and still had the chatter,,,, So then I spun the alternator pulley and it was grinding. (I tried the screwdriver handle to my ear on each part while it was running, couldn't pinpoint it) Anyway, I thought,, sheesh, not this again. Called DB, and they would not help me.. said it was out of the 12 months warranty period. (Fine, yes it is....) So I put the Autozone one with the life time warranty back in the truck. (Carried it as a "Spare" and really forgot it was in the tool box, planned on returning it) I told them, if I was going to have to replace it every two years, it may as well be free.
I CERTAINLY hope the starter lasts longer, I DO love the way it spins the motor over.
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They talk about the large case 6g alternator. My understanding is that these trucks use a 6g. So how would a large case fit (assuming we have the small case - as they seem to imply)? If the case were larger I am not sure how it would fit in the cradle - larger to me would imply the bolt holes being farther apart????
__________________ TDS member #49 - 1999.5 (Built 4/26/99) White F350, CC, SRW, LWB, Lariat, AIC, 4R100 (4th transmission before 85k - gotta love this tranny), 6.0 trans cooler, manual shift 4wd, 3 inch leveling kit, KING reservoir shocks, 285-75-16 Bridgestone REVOs, Performance Friction Pads all around, Powerslot Cryo'd rotors in front, CD player, Infinity REF 6800CS speakers (front and rear), Garmin 2610 GPS (hardwired), 40/20/40 leather seats, heated turn signal- TT mirrors, Titan V hitch, weatherguard box, DP Tuner 4 Position chip (love it), AIS intake, Diesel Site CAC Boots, 4" Magnaflow exhaust, Diesel Innovations Up Pipe, gutted EBPV, Non EBPV Turbo Pedestal, X-Monitor. NO STEERING WHEN BRAKES ARE APPLIED!
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, Bilsteins shocks, Greggs MB AutoTrans, Baby 
Swamps,Tony Wildman 
Chip, AutoMeter Pyro/Trans/Boost, Tymar intake, MBRP 4 in turbo back exhaust, 209000 miles,D&B HT Starter
So then I spun the alternator pulley and it was grinding. (I tried the screwdriver handle to my ear on each part while it was running, couldn't pinpoint it) Anyway, I thought,, sheesh, not this again. Called DB, and they would not help me.. said it was out of the 12 months warranty period. (Fine, yes it is....) So I put the Autozone one with the life time warranty back in the truck. (Carried it as a "Spare" and really forgot it was in the tool box, planned on returning it) I told them, if I was going to have to replace it every two years, it may as well be free.
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