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Upgrades and Aftermarket - 99 & up 7.3L Engine Upgrading or adding OEM or aftermarket equipment to your 1999-Up Super Duty or Excursion with 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.

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Old 04-14-2007, 01:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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444e Brake compressor for onboard air?

When I was a youngun' I rode in many a school bus equipped with the 444 and 444e all had air brakes.

Anyone know how the compressor was configured on these units?

My thinking here is about another option in onboard air setups on the ole PSD.
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Re: 444e Brake compressor for onboard air?

The majoritie of them are Belt driven.On T-444E's the common mounting is offset off the front of the drivers side head.And I doubt you will fit it in a Superduty Eng compartment.I would go with a Electric powerd Unit
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Re: 444e Brake compressor for onboard air?

If you can find room you could bolt up a belt driven Bendix Tu-Flow 500 or 750. The Bendix Tu-Flow compressors are very common and a good unit. The belt driven models are not quite as common but are around. Most of the gas powered Ford B chassis that had air brakes had a belt driven Tu-Flow. Several International trucks/engines used the belt-driven setup. The compressor itself isn't all that big, probably 24"x14" or so, but the pulley is about as big as the tires on a Civic.
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Re: 444e Brake compressor for onboard air?

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The majoritie of them are Belt driven.On T-444E's the common mounting is offset off the front of the drivers side head.And I doubt you will fit it in a Superduty Eng compartment.I would go with a Electric powerd Unit

[/ QUOTE ]Somebody posted in the Upgrades and Aftermarket General forums that IH has a mount for a belt driven compressor located where the second alternator would go in a PSD. They were trying to find a IH part number. There is an aftermarket pump that goes in the same location but they wanted $800 for the mount!
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Re: 444e Brake compressor for onboard air?

Unless you get a good used compressor they are rather pricey for a rebuilt unit. Last rebuilt one I bought was about $1200. Like was said, using the IH brackets the compressor will be higher than the rest of the engine. I would bet the SD hood will not close. You will also need to relocate the Ford alternator, as the compressor will mount where it sits. IH mounts their alternators low on the passenger side.
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Re: 444e Brake compressor for onboard air?

I fitted a sankyo 506 airconditioner compressor where the dress cover was on the top of the motor. Created a mount from the two bolts on the original A/C compressor and alternator bracket. Fitted a pulley to the front of the crankshaft and a tensioner pulley on the way up to the compressor. Empty the oil from the compressor and put a very high quality grease into it. About a cup full. I fitted a grease nipple to the filler plug. I also fitted a non return valve in the outlet hose. I use resevior on my system. I have a pressure switch fitted that makes use of the compressor clutch along with a blow off valve. These compressors can get up to 400psi and deliver about 10 CFM
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