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Old 03-31-2011, 06:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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7.3 intercooler

Is there a big difference in EGT'S by installing a banks intercooler??
I have also read that installing a 6.0 intercooler in a 7.3 is a good upgrade is that easy to do ?? Any mods to make it fit?? Pros cons please....

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I installed an '03 6.0 intercooler in my 2000 F250 and it did help with the EGT's probably 50-100 degrees, which I feel made it worth it because I tow quite abit. I will say I found that it takes a bit longer for the turbo to spool up because of the increase volume of the intercooler as compared to the original 7.3 intercooler, but that could be because of the 6 spd. The 6 spd's don't spool as fast as an auto. I hope this helps, Todd
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Spongebob915- are you getting into the danger zone with the EGT's? Do you have a pyrometer? I find on my '99 that in the worst of pulling conditions I don't get into critical temps. I have a stock intercooler and have a banks turbo back exhaust, with a superchips tuner set at 40 extra horses and pulling a cab-over camper and a 19' boat grossing 18,000 lbs. In the summer heat of 100 degrees and 6% grade I climb to about 1000'-1100' on my before turbo pyro. just giving you a guideline. 1250' is redline before meltdown of the turbo fins.
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Hey! spongebob what year is your truck ? Mike
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My truck is a 2001 f350 crew cab

I reason about asking about the intercooler is because I found someone selling a banks for $700 . Is it worth putting on . I do have a intake , ts chip which sucks needs a re tune . Would I notice a big difference in EGT'S .
When I tow my trailer compared to my old stock truck it feels twice as heavy and my EGT'S are always 1200+ if I'm going up hill ,plus I need to slow down .
I do have 35 inch tires I guess that does make a difference. Old truck had stock tires .
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If you are always seeing 1200+ I'd also look into possible boost leaks. $700 for the banks cooler sounds like a good price. I'd also get a set of dieselsite boots to hook it up. I bet it makes a bigger difference than you think because you will end up removing some boost leaks in the process.

Larger tires will hurt a little, and I'm curious why your TS chip needs retuned. Have you tried running without it to see if that is causing you to heat up too quickly?
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Spongebob915- are you getting into the danger zone with the EGT's? Do you have a pyrometer? I find on my '99 that in the worst of pulling conditions I don't get into critical temps. I have a stock intercooler and have a banks turbo back exhaust, with a superchips tuner set at 40 extra horses and pulling a cab-over camper and a 19' boat grossing 18,000 lbs. In the summer heat of 100 degrees and 6% grade I climb to about 1000'-1100' on my before turbo pyro. just giving you a guideline. 1250' is redline before meltdown of the turbo fins.

Turbo doesn't care about the EGT's its the pistons..you can tow all day at 1250* preturbo.

I'd get a TS chip with custom tunes..if you don't have a intake a Tymar will help get additional air flow. PM me if I can help.
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with the 6.0 intercooler did u notice any hp gaines or just lower temps
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caryt is right, you ain't gonna hurt the turbo it's the pistons that will crack, distort, melt ring landings, ect...

Take out TS chip and test EGT's also double check for boost leaks between the turbo and the intake plenums(check all boots).

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$700 for just a used Banks 7.3 IC seems a little steep to me. I've seen just the Banks 6.0 IC sold new for $850. Salvage yards sell Ford 6.0 IC's for $200 all day long. (not that I think they're comparable on a performance level)

If it's a Banks 6.0 IC, and it includes the boots to adapt, then I wouldn't balk at the $700 price.
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$700 for just a used Banks 7.3 IC seems a little steep to me. I've seen just the Banks 6.0 IC sold new for $850. Salvage yards sell Ford 6.0 IC's for $200 all day long. (not that I think they're comparable on a performance level)

If it's a Banks 6.0 IC, and it includes the boots to adapt, then I wouldn't balk at the $700 price.
IF we can put a 6.0 stock intercooler into the 7.3 truck, can a Banks 6.0 intercooler also be put into a 7.3 truck? That might open up more options for the OP or at least give an avenue for him to bargain down the seller.
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can a Banks 6.0 intercooler also be put into a 7.3 truck?
According to these guys it can. The IC is $845.50, and they offer conversion boots for $94. Personally, I'd opt for Bob Riley's Boot kit, save for it being out of stock.

Upgrading the exhaust and intake are two things I really want to do to my 02' 7.3, but saving $$$ to build a house in the next few years is taking a priority.

I also have a manual transmission, so I lose boost every time I shift. Switching to a turbo with a lower A/R ratio is something I'd like as well.
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According to these guys it can. The IC is $845.50, and they offer conversion boots for $94. Personally, I'd opt for Bob Riley's Boot kit, save for it being out of stock.

Upgrading the exhaust and intake are two things I really want to do to my 02' 7.3, but saving $$$ to build a house in the next few years is taking a priority.

I also have a manual transmission, so I lose boost every time I shift. Switching to a turbo with a lower A/R ratio is something I'd like as well.
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We at Diesel Power Products have discovered that with a few simple modifications, we were able to install a Banks Techni-Cooler Intercooler designed to fit a 6.0L PowerStroke into a 7.3L. Now, what would be the benefit of doing such a thing, why not just install the Banks intercooler designed for a 7.3L? The Banks 6.0L intercooler is much larger than the stock intercooler and has 3.5" tube connections for super flow. The construction is all metal and the end tanks are a great improvement for flow. This intercooler provides cooler, denser air for more power and lower Exhaust Gas Temperatures (EGTs) especially when towing with a modified truck.
Therein lies the problem. They are comparing the 6.0 intercooler with the stock 7.3. Where did they compare the 6.0 to the 7.3 where BOTH are Banks units? I'm curious. And what is the difference in results, number wise.
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Therein lies the problem. They are comparing the 6.0 intercooler with the stock 7.3. Where did they compare the 6.0 to the 7.3 where BOTH are Banks units? I'm curious. And what is the difference in results, number wise.
I don't recall where, but somewhere on this here interweb, I saw/read and article comparing the Banks intercoolers, 7.3 to 6.0. And the 6.0 was a lot bigger. Although there was no objective performance comparison, just comparison with a tape measure and camera.

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I have a 6.0L intercooler in my 2000 7.3, I also have a 6 speed manual. There was a drop in EGT's close to 100 degrees under load, and it does take a bit longer to spool the turbo. I gave up close to 2 lbs of boost in the swap. I can tell you that it was well worth doing because cooler is better if for nothing more than piece of mind. txgp17 you can keep your boost up while shifting by shifting around 2600 RPM's and not lifting all the way out of the throttle. This is the only way that i can out run these Dodges around here. It will not help you with and modified duramax i am tired of trying. My buddy bought a 99 F350 the same as mine and we put all the same stuff on his that i have on mine and he cant out run me, but to show him its his shifting i out ran him with his truck, yea i let him drive mine.
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