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Old 02-16-2010, 06:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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whats the one that you guys have been getting the best mileage out of? thats what i mainly want. smoother idle is also a plus. thanks!
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There's buzz out there of the latest release from International (part number 1876736c91) smoothing out the engine and increasing fuel economy. Read more in this thread.

I installed this flavor CPS yesterday, replacing the original one of 11 years. Too early to tell on fuel economy, but it appears to make the engine run smoother, slightly when cold but particularly when the engine has reached full operating temperature.
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I also just installed the new part number 1876736c91 from I/H. Compared to the previous one (bark black) the new one runs slightly worse. The engine idles a hair rougher and I need to run another tank of fuel to confirm the mileage may have slipped a tinny bit. But it sure runs better than the light gray one I tried from Ford a couple of months ago.

My all black CPS has a number molded on the plug head of 08P071. I wish I could give the I/H part number but I’ve lost the box I had for it.
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this is also something i'd like to know...

i had ford replace my original and noticed a decrease in mileage... was gettin 20 on the highway.. now I get 15 and 15 around town also.. but before i was gettin 15 around town and 20 on the highway.. it seems like over 70mph the truck just drinks fuel now
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i can't understand how a sensor can have the affects stated in this post. i would think that it works or it doesn't. i was under the impression that CPS recall was simply because of a failure rate. i changed mine last year cause it was 10 years old and noticed no difference. i do have peace of mind though.
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i can't understand how a sensor can have the affects stated in this post. i would think that it works or it doesn't. i was under the impression that CPS recall was simply because of a failure rate. i changed mine last year cause it was 10 years old and noticed no difference. i do have peace of mind though.

I don’t know how it does it either. But, I can tell you without a doubt that the charcoal sensor with a purple O-ring has dropped my mileage by 1.5mpg and takes a little more cranking to start. It still runs fine, and there’s nothing wrong with the charcoal/purple sensor, but I think I’m going to re-install my black one or try the “new” gray one. I figure what the hell I have four now to chose from in the tool box. I might as well make an experiment out of it.
A question I have for the electromechanical guru’s out there; is it possible when installing these CPS’s that any slight rotation (or indexing) is possible in making a difference? I only ask because it seems when I install these sensors there is a little side-to-side rotational slop before tightening the 10mm bolt.
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Here are my experiences. The black CPS, motor runs smoother, performs better, starts faster, and mileage is a little better. I have tried three different gray CPS, with the same results, the opposite of the black. My WAG is, there is a slight difference in the head contour on the gray, compared to the black. My theory is it is affecting the timing, the difference is slight. I think this what is making the difference. Compare the two side by side, and there is a noticeable difference. How about this WAG, Ford, and maybe IH want the 7.3's to become obsolete. They know the 6.0, and 6.4 have short lives, a well known fact, not an opinion. The new 6.7 has a lot of promise, but only time will tell. Hopefully Ford has a winner. All of the recent diesels, whether big, or small have their issues. They may run very clean, but at a high price. They can't be idled, but a few minutes, or the EGR's have problems, etc. The newer motors are expensive to maintain, and have short life spans, that is just wonderful progress. USLD fuel delivers poorer mileage, less btu's, and lubricity. Look at the big picture, and it makes sense. Make the older reliable motors obsolete, and lets sell them new ones, that will generate revenue. Think about it.
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It would be great if one of our fine aftermarket retailers would identify the key characteristics of the CPS and then build and sell the "ultimate CPS". Sounds like its possible to gain MPGs and that would sell for sure.
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Here are my experiences. The black CPS, motor runs smoother, performs better, starts faster, and mileage is a little better. I have tried three different gray CPS, with the same results, the opposite of the black. My WAG is, there is a slight difference in the head contour on the gray, compared to the black. My theory is it is affecting the timing, the difference is slight. I think this what is making the difference. Compare the two side by side, and there is a noticeable difference. How about this WAG, Ford, and maybe IH want the 7.3's to become obsolete. They know the 6.0, and 6.4 have short lives, a well known fact, not an opinion. The new 6.7 has a lot of promise, but only time will tell. Hopefully Ford has a winner. All of the recent diesels, whether big, or small have their issues. They may run very clean, but at a high price. They can't be idled, but a few minutes, or the EGR's have problems, etc. The newer motors are expensive to maintain, and have short life spans, that is just wonderful progress. USLD fuel delivers poorer mileage, less btu's, and lubricity. Look at the big picture, and it makes sense. Make the older reliable motors obsolete, and lets sell them new ones, that will generate revenue. Think about it.
I don't fully agree with said statement. Are the big 3 (and others) always looking to see how they can make a profit.....yes. I think the real issue is that the EPA keeps changing their damn minds on what emission standards will be for us diesel guys and everyone is chassing the EPA standards with programs that have faster and faster/tighter and tighter timing to meet new standards, not leaving time to refine their designs to get the goods that we (the diesel guys) are used to having. My two cents from my expereince working at International.
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thanks guys. whats the part # on the black one that you are talking about? where do i get it from? best price etc.
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thanks guys. whats the part # on the black one that you are talking about? where do i get it from? best price etc.
International dealer if they have any left. I don't think the black ones are produced any more, are they?
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Where can I find pictures of removing and installing a turbo on a 7.3L Diesel Ford F-350
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Jody at DP Tuners had some black ones, a while back. Not sure if they still do or not. They were the orginal Ford ones. I think they were going for about $75.
Other than that, I am still thinking the old blue one that IH came out with a few years back, did everything the new IH dark gray one does. I just think they changed the plastic, and put a purple o-ring on it. It did retard the timing, with smoothed out the engine lope, made it easier to start, and quieted it down. Sometimes it blew a hole in the fuel milage. It was actually for the IH DT 466, 6 cylinder diesel engine.
Just an observation, I really don't have any idea.
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i can imagine that the sensitivity being better in some than others. the position, clocking and depth, of the sensor itself could possibly effect the timing a tiny amount. the sensors are a tight fit, i would think only a couple thousands worth of play. we could always take the clamping bolt off and giggle it around to see if there is any play. i wouldn't waste my time. i just want a CPS that doesn't fail.
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