Upgrades and Aftermarket - 99 & up 7.3L EngineUpgrading or adding OEM or aftermarket equipment to your 1999-Up Super Duty or Excursion with 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.
I just bought a 2000 7.3 Crew cab long bed with 93K. I want to chip or program it. However my friend of 15 yrs and diesel mechanic with a 7.3 of his own told me to leave it stock. His engine blew two rods after 40,000 miles of being programmed. He claims it was due to the programmer.
The question I ask you all, have you heard of this happening, and should I program mine?
-Thank you
Sometime in 2001 they switched to PMR's, which I believe are cast, vs. the
forged rods they had been using. PMR's are not as strong. I think PML stands for powdered metal rod.
Also, chips & tuning have come a long way. The guys writing the tunes don't want you to blow your engine, it's bad for business. Contact
Bill at PHP, Jody at DPTunder, or Tony at Total Diesel Performance, and they
will set you with a tuner or chip that will meet your needs.
Chip it!! Chip it !! Chip it!!
But be warned, once you start one mod it will lead to another, , then another, then another, and it never ends.
I agree with the advice above, chips have come a long way in the last few years. I don't know of a good tuner anymore that doesn't ask you what your truck specifically has for mods so they don't over tune. Personally I have a DP Tuner and love it, but there are others that work well too.
Good luck, keep us informed how things go.
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2002 F-350 crew cab, long bed, SRW. 4 inch exhaust, 6.0 tranny cooler, AFE Stage II, High Performance tranny from Mountain Transmission in Montrose Co. DP Tuner F5 switch stock, 40tow,60tow,4low exhaust brake, 80econ, regular exhaust brake. DB Starter, Ranch Hand front bumper,
ITP in tank and prefilter mod, Harpooned tank. Custom front springs/leveling kit (thanks Spring Works) with Ranch RS9000 front shocks. Centramatic Wheel Balancers
Along that line, there is a supermodel in my bed wanting to set my nights on fire. To **** her or not to. Tough question, isn't it?
Your mechanic friend is right and wrong. Depends on who chips it. If you get your chip from Joes Fish and Chips tuning, probably. If you get it from someone reputable like DP-Tuner, unless you purposely do something stupid, probably not.
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01 Excursion 7.3L Powerstroke. Gauges with AIH Delete, AIS, CCV Mod, 4' MBRP, BTS Trans, 6.0L Trans Cooler and Intercooler, DP-Tuner F5 chip, ITP In Tank Mod and Boost Annihilator, Diesel Innovation's Regulated Fuel kit, BTS Big Oil system, GTP38R Turbo with 1.15 A/R housing and BPD Stage II AC injectors. Bilstein Shocks with U code front and A code Rear.
Along that line, there is a supermodel in my bed wanting to set my nights on fire. To **** her or not to. Tough question, isn't it?
Your mechanic friend is right and wrong. Depends on who chips it. If you get your chip from Joes Fish and Chips tuning, probably. If you get it from someone reputable like DP-Tuner, unless you purposely do something stupid, probably not.
I am going with DPTuner, everyone here seems to like them and from the website, it looks like a good choice!
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Your mechanic friend is right and wrong. Depends on who chips it. If you get your chip from Joes Fish and Chips tuning, probably. If you get it from someone reputable like DP-Tuner, unless you purposely do something stupid, probably not.
Also depends on how you drive it. If you beat the he!! out of anything it will give up, some things are tougher than others.....
BadDog gave some good advice too......
"Also, chips & tuning have come a long way. The guys writing the tunes don't want you to blow your engine, it's bad for business. Contact
Bill at PHP, Jody at DPTunder, or Tony at Total Diesel Performance, and they
will set you with a tuner or chip that will meet your needs"
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2002 F-250 XLT CC SB\HPX\ITP prepump mod\Harpoon\DI 65psi fuel shim\4" SS turbo back Magnaflow\Fumoto\FTVB\Edge Evolution2\Zoodad\2008 Diff cover\V-10 Transmission cooler
Yeah, get some kind of chip for it. I got a Superchips for my truck, also a 2000 model, and driving it in Tow Safe, it has given me another MPG and gets along just fine. In the Performance mode, man that thing scats real good. I'm sure there are better chips than what I have but just wanted to say something is better tha nothing! You will not regret it. Also, what another member said, the tuners DO NOT want you to blow your engine is true so any reputible tuner should suit you just fine.
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2000 F-250SD XLT 7.3 Auto CrewCab Long Bed, Harvest Gold, RoadQuest Boards, Superchips 1705, Ford AIS Filter System w/fender sleeve, Extreme Liner, Ranger RCI-2970
1971 Boss 351 Mustang Fastback 330HP 4spd. Wimbledon White
1993 McKee Craft Offshore Fisherman/120 Evinrude
Once you chip it, you will never go back to stock, my truck felt like it had a huge anchor dragging down the asphalt w/o the programmer, I could not believe how easy it was to chip it when I go my SCT, night to day!
Funny thing, I get some lower EGT's on the highest tune than on a lower one......
Just don't drive it like you just bought a Mustang and you should be fine, specially on a 7.3, congrats!!
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2000 F-350 7.3 PS ,4R100 Lariat Dually http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...DSC02732-1.jpg
4x2 LB 3.73 gears, 115k miles(better than new)
6" Fabtech lift w/ duall steering stabilizers
22.5 polished Freightliner wheels
Triple Clutch Triple Bearings Billet Low stall Converter.
V10 Tranny cooler + Trucool max cooler
Wicked Wheel-loud little sucker!
DieselStop Boost fooler
Full Turbo back 4'' exhaust,
Triple Autometer Phantom gauges on pillar,
Now using Superchips 80hp Performance tune.
Wastegate disconnected
2005 front clip.
Zoodad mod.
CFM+
CCV rerouted
S&B CAI
4'' Ported Housing non-ATS
IC pipe ceramic coated w/ foil delete
Inlet heater deleted.
3 tv's + Backup Cam,DVD,Nav.,Satelite Music.IPod
Jason smooth topper.
Big air compressor/tank
2 air horns w/ big valves
Quick connect Air hose for any air tool/tires All work done at DieselTriple.Com-Miami,FL
Here but not installed:ATS 1.00 a/r, non-ebv pedestal and outlet,turbo master actuator,203 thermo.,billet thermo. inlet.
Yeah get it from DP-Tuner because they have never blown up a stock motor
I said "probably not". I can go on my 80E tune and get on it till it gets the EGT real high and blow a hole in the piston if you are paying for the new motor. The odds of DP-Tuner blowing up a stock motor are less than some guy with a laptop and a burner that just got the equipment in the mail last week.
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01 Excursion 7.3L Powerstroke. Gauges with AIH Delete, AIS, CCV Mod, 4' MBRP, BTS Trans, 6.0L Trans Cooler and Intercooler, DP-Tuner F5 chip, ITP In Tank Mod and Boost Annihilator, Diesel Innovation's Regulated Fuel kit, BTS Big Oil system, GTP38R Turbo with 1.15 A/R housing and BPD Stage II AC injectors. Bilstein Shocks with U code front and A code Rear.
I said "probably not". I can go on my 80E tune and get on it till it gets the EGT real high and blow a hole in the piston if you are paying for the new motor. The odds of DP-Tuner blowing up a stock motor are less than some guy with a laptop and a burner that just got the equipment in the mail last week.
When you tare a stock motor down that has only had a DP Tuner on it and all 8 pistons are cracked and there is a big star pattern on the pistions what do you think the issue is?
T-I-M-I-N-G
That and when you change positions on the chip and the injectors have a completely different tone what is the cause there? Timing and ICP jacked up to high.
I'm not here to argue. Just that there are better tuners out there.
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1999.5 Ford F-250 7.3l 4x4 PSD With some extras
When you tare a stock motor down that has only had a DP Tuner on it and all 8 pistons are cracked and there is a big star pattern on the pistions what do you think the issue is?
T-I-M-I-N-G
That and when you change positions on the chip and the injectors have a completely different tone what is the cause there? Timing and ICP jacked up to high.
I'm not here to argue. Just that there are better tuners out there.
True injector timing can only be measured in the cylinder. Only this measurement will tell if too much timing is in fact what caused the issue. Heat is more a culprit. You control heat with timing. Too little timing causes too much heat. Too much heat is what cracks pistons.
This can happen on a complete bone stock truck.
Some people are often misinformed for the purpose of a lesser good.
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'92 F-250 7.3 IDI Diesel 4:10 (99k) 4x4 ext cab (Prodigy brake controller
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