Upgrades and Aftermarket - 7.3L EngineUpgrading and adding aftermarket equipment to your 1999-Up Super Duty or Excursion with 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.
Has anybody tried the customer supplied PCM flash from DP-Tuner? If so, what are your thoughts? It seems too good to be true. Up to 140hp for $75? That's the best hp-to-dollar ratio I've ever seen. I'm assuming you have to send him your PCM and he flashes it with the program of your choice. Is this correct? If so, my wife would have do without the truck for quite a while I'm sure.
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Wife's Truck: 2000 F-250 2WD Crew Cab Auto
My Baby: 2004.5 Dodge 2500 Quad Cab 5.9L Cummins LWB 4X4 6-speed. Only mod to date is Smarty programmer. Will never own any other programmer.
I have his 80hp econo flash. Yes, it's the best power per dollar deal out there, but you have to keep in mind that this will be your only tune. If you do an ultra high horse flash, your mileage will be crap, and if you tow, your egt's would be out of control. My 80 horse flash is a good medium for power, and I can still tow with it. Also, I get 19.5 mpg if I stay out of it. Awesome deal!
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Yeah, you wouldn't want to live with the 140-horse tune. Plus it won't produce 140 additional horses unless you have supporting mods such as intake, exhaust, turbo, intercooler, etc. Without the supporting mods, it will produce lots of black smoke, but nowhere near 140 additional horses.
For a basically stock engine with gauges, intake and exhaust mods, stick with 80-tow or 80-economy if you want to minimize cost by having the PCM flashed instead of installing a programmer or chip.
I have 60-tow, 80-economy and 100 performance. Mine stays in 60-tow almost all the time, loaded or unloaded. It does just fine in 60-tow even when not towing. My two bigger trailers weight 7,000 and 8,000 pounds, so 60 tow is perfect for my towing and also does a good job when not towing or when towing my smaller trailers that gross 5,000 or 3,000 pounds.
But if I could have only one tune and never towed more than about 6000 pounds, I'd probably want the 80-tow tune.
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My Sierra Blanca is a '99.5 PSD CrewCab hot-rod Towing Machine! BTS tranny; Ford Severe Duty Air Induction System (AIS); 4" stainless turbo-back exhaust; DP-Tuner tunes flashed into an Edge Evolution tuner; ISSPRO EV gauges and Turbo Temp Monitor (TTM); Auxiliary Idle Controller (AIC); SP-Diesel exhaust brake and torque converter controller. Top Job front end replacement. I special-ordered it new and plan to drive it until it quits.
I'm not considering the 140hp tune, I was just pointing out that it's an incredible bang for the buck. I understand that I would need supporting mods. I'm considering the 80hp econo tune.
Deathwishracing, could you answer this for me: I'm assuming you have to send him your PCM and he flashes it with the program of your choice. Is this correct? If so, my wife would have do without the truck for quite a while I'm sure.
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Wife's Truck: 2000 F-250 2WD Crew Cab Auto
My Baby: 2004.5 Dodge 2500 Quad Cab 5.9L Cummins LWB 4X4 6-speed. Only mod to date is Smarty programmer. Will never own any other programmer.
If so, my wife would have do without the truck for quite a while I'm sure.
If you call DP-Tuner ahead of time, then use UPS or Federal Express overnight mail both ways, it could be done in as little as 3 days. One day to get it there, one day to get it back, and one day for Jody to do his thing and get it back to Diane so she could get it packaged and mailed back to you.
is there anything between the 140 and 80 like 100hp more like a performance tune on a programmer? and where is the pcm located? and does he do 6.0L?
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If you call DP-Tuner ahead of time, then use UPS or Federal Express overnight mail both ways, it could be done in as little as 3 days. One day to get it there, one day to get it back, and one day for Jody to do his thing and get it back to Diane so she could get it packaged and mailed back to you.
to add....if he can get it here to us in the morning time (next day air RED) it could go out the same day if we can have ready what he wants flashed ahead of time. We have a morning drop and an afternoon pick up Mon-Fri.
Randall, I responded to your post in the other forum also.
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I have done this also. I went with the 80tow and with gauges I just keep an eye on things towing all the way up to a GCW of close to 35,000#. Wait, I mean, no more than the gross my truck and trailer can handle. Yeah.
For your wife's truck a 60 or 80 tune would be just fine. I had a great time dealing with Jody. I just wish I had the money to deal with them more.
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DP-Tuner 80T, ATS Compressor housing, DIY intake, openair CCV, 80HP 'pane shot, SBC DD all ceramic clutch, ISSPRO boost/pyro gauges, 4" lift, 255/70R22.5 tires, brake linelock, 16 flashy lights, 12 strobes, 12 switches on console, 9 switches on the dash, 7 two-way radios, 5 air horns, laptop, siren, 105 gal. in-bed fuel tank, and who knows what else... oh and a Kennesaw Mountain front bumper (now tried and true)
'66 Bronco "Big Little Monster" - 5.0L EFI, AOD, D20, 3.5" WH sus. lift, 3" body lift, 35" BFG muds, Stock Dana 30 front with Lock-Rite, disk brakes, Warn Hubs, Stock Ford 9" rear with mini spool
I don't remember seeing a 'code-free' tune. Mine definitely isn't free from tripping the CEL that's for sure. Currently the way mine is tuned the HPOP can't keep up as I can only maintain about 1700psi under constant full throttle. Now, in Jody (et al)'s defense I've had my tune for a while and I'm sure there have been some improvements. I just look at it as a reason I need to get bigger oil
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'02 F-350 "Babe The Big Blue Truck" 4x4, Ext. Cab, 8' bed
DP-Tuner 80T, ATS Compressor housing, DIY intake, openair CCV, 80HP 'pane shot, SBC DD all ceramic clutch, ISSPRO boost/pyro gauges, 4" lift, 255/70R22.5 tires, brake linelock, 16 flashy lights, 12 strobes, 12 switches on console, 9 switches on the dash, 7 two-way radios, 5 air horns, laptop, siren, 105 gal. in-bed fuel tank, and who knows what else... oh and a Kennesaw Mountain front bumper (now tried and true)
'66 Bronco "Big Little Monster" - 5.0L EFI, AOD, D20, 3.5" WH sus. lift, 3" body lift, 35" BFG muds, Stock Dana 30 front with Lock-Rite, disk brakes, Warn Hubs, Stock Ford 9" rear with mini spool
is there anything between the 140 and 80 like 100hp more like a performance tune on a programmer? and where is the pcm located? and does he do 6.0L?
No one does "chips" for 6.0L. The PCM is different than the 7.3L PCM, and I haven't looked at one but I suspect it's without a port to plug in a chip. Jody does do the SCT programmer for the 6.0L, with either stock SCT tunes or custom DP-Tuner tunes. But his 6.0L tunes are described as tow, econo, and race. No mention of the increased horses, but I suspect tow and econo tunes are around 60 to 80 extra horses, and race is around 100 extra horses. When you add those to the stock 325 horses of the 6.0L, that's some serious power.
For the 7.3L, Jody offers 100 performance, 120 race, and 140 extreme or agressive. But the 6.0L is different, with 75 more horses to begin with.
I bought an 80HP Economy PCM from DP a while back and replaced the one in the truck with it, and was worth every penny. Not only does my truck run stronger, it fixed an annoying shift flare problem that Ford couldnt fix(too late unfortunately as the tranny is PHHTTT). I can always add a "chip" to it to gain more programs in addition to the 80 already on there.
Not only did I get a really good tune, Jody went out of his way to help diagnose a shifting problem that occurs between 35-45 MPH. I sent my old PCM, he looked at the tables and compared to the one he sent me, saw no difference, so that means my tranny is a piece of junk. Some day I will yank it out and rebuild it myself, I love playing with trannies(that just sounds so wrong).
Two words of advice
DO IT!
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'99 F350 CC LWB DRW
Mods, SuperHyper Improbability drive stage II. Hypermax 5" turbo back system, triple pillar guages, Heater core shutoff. AEM Brute Force intake. 3.73 gearing. DP PCM with 80HP Installed!
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