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Old 05-01-2006, 01:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

I did the heater bypass mod last fall. I am using the valve that has both lines going thru and the black vacuum line behind the glove box. I get heat when I set the control for defrost/floor or just floor - all other positions are for cooling.

It has finally warmed up enough that I have started to use the air condiontioner - what I found was the temp setting control for the air conditioner does not seem to work but it does work for the heating temp control. What I mean by not work for cooling is I had the control turned all the way to the hot side and I still get very cool air with fan set a lowest setting. Does this make any sense?
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Re: Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

could your vac solenoid be bad to trigger the cold side of the control?
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Re: Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

So you think there may be two solenoids to control temperature setting? One for heat and one for cooling? I know the compressor clutch is working - any idea where the temperature control selenoids might be located?
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Re: Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

When you do the By-pass mod.... when you are in ANY A/C setting, the valve you installed to do the mod has Shut Off, or re-directd heated coolant to the Heater Core. You don't have any control of Heat temps.... from the temp knob.

The reason we do the Mod is: Temprature is controled by the knob setting as to how much air is re-directed thru the heater core box in the A/C, Heater Plenum. (Box under the dash) Even with the Heat door/flap fully closed, and the A/C on, Cooled air passes >NEAR< the heater box... Close enough... to heat the cooled air [some]. By re-directing the heated coolant... away from the heater core.... the A/C air is, or can be, 10 to 15 degrees cooler.

There is only 1, vacuum operated selenoid.... the one you installed in the Heater Hose.

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Re: Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

Big Joe,

On other vehicles I have own the temp control seemed to control how long the air conditioning compressor ran - it's duty cycle. So, if I understand your above explaination, you are saying that the SuperDuty temp knob controls either heat or cooling by adjusting the amount of air flowing over the heater core and the source of the incoming air? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the compressor runs on our trucks even when we are using the heater settings.
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Re: Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

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Big Joe,

On other vehicles I have own the temp control seemed to control how long the air conditioning compressor ran - it's duty cycle. So, if I understand your above explaination, you are saying that the SuperDuty temp knob controls either heat or cooling by adjusting the amount of air flowing over the heater core and the source of the incoming air? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the compressor runs on our trucks even when we are using the heater settings.

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The compressor Only runs in the MAX A/C, A/C, Vent/Floor and De-frost settings, on these Fords.

But with the Heater Core By-pass Mod, you loose Heat temp control, by the knob, because you have shut off the flow of heated coolant, thru the heater core, in Max A/C, A/C and Vent/Floor.

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Re: Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

If you don't get any heat in any position that uses the dash vents or defroster you are hooked into the wrong line under the dash. You hooked to the red line and you should have hooked to the white line.

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Re: Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

Never thought about that..... Lizman ? What FOMOGO said.
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Re: Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

I do get heat in the three bottom positions on the right - can't remember what they are - floor, floor/windshield, windshield - I think. I get cooling first position to right and all positions to the left. Just did not notice the lack of heat control like I notice the lack of cooling control - this thing really cools well now, too much for the wife sometimes, but we can adjust vents to compensate. Thanks for the explaination.
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Re: Heater Bypass and cooling temperature control

I hear ya. Wife complains about it too. I control it with the Fan Speed. Once things git cooled down, even in the 100+* temps'round here.... the A/C sure works better after the By-pass mod.

Glad you got it understood now.

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