Upgrades and Aftermarket - 7.3L EngineUpgrading and adding aftermarket equipment to your 1999-Up Super Duty or Excursion with 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.
I am on the waiting list for the new STEALTH system, I have PMRs and am not worried. The BO won't window your block, alone, after market injectors and tuning can do that, with or without BO I imagine. 400 hp seems to be near the roof for PMRs. I wont be over that with my stock injectors, chip and BO.
360-375 is my hope.
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Have been running that setup for almost 2 years and no windowed block. There are quite a few running this setup and as far as I have heard or read no problems with blocks. Now, if you want to add larger injectors to the equation, I would think your odds of windowing a block increase significantly. There have been a couple who have posted on here over the years with not so good results and there are a some still going strong with nonstock injectors.
Based on the posts here in the past the odds of your block surviving are great with stock injectors, big oil and good programming.
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You can't make over 400 hp with stock injectors unless you are heavy on the NOS. Big oil and stock injectors will put you somewhere in the 340-360hp range. You'll be fine.
I'm running Termy with stock injectors and extreme ICP tuning (3800psi) from DP-Tuner. Truck runs better than ever, and smokes less.
I have that setup.. I have a 2002 F350 and have big oil, stage 2 injectors, Garrett Ball Bearing Turbo and I drive it like I stole it!! I have no problems at all and tow a heavy trailer too..
It is all in the tuning. Just because you have big injectors does not mean you have the fuel demand at max. That is why PMR trucks with hybrids dyno 420ish when there is 500+hp worth of fuel available.
It is all in the tuning.
Jim, on the waiting list for the new single stealth? I bet it is going to be a long, long list. You have said you were getting big oil for years..... Are you getting one of the beta units for testing?
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I kind of curious to see what riley's single jacked on steroids pump can do as well. The price is easier to swallow. Like chips and tuning 3-4 years ago, big oil is evolving.
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I kind of curious to see what riley's single jacked on steroids pump can do as well. The price is easier to swallow. Like chips and tuning 3-4 years ago, big oil is evolving.
It is evolving, and like "DODGE" used to say in their commercials, "The rules have changed" ROTFLMAO!!!!
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
I'm hitting the dyno on tuesday for the first time with rig. Big oil IS on my list of "to do mods". I'm sure with BO I will still be well under the 400hp mark.
Why would you invest the coin in big oil if you intend on running stock oil pressure tunes? That would be like taking a sack lunch to a buffet.....
BO tuning demands big oil pressure to make more power and smoke less. Now that is why you invest in BO.
I didn't know how detrimental it was to power,I definitely like to get the performance I paid for and want my motor to run and idle right. As for the analogy, I do like to 'pre-eat"! lol