programmer ?

[dieseladdikt]

I bought an edge evolution programmer today not sure what model the box is in the truck but that shouldnt matter for my ? It plugs into to the obd port or obm port whatever it is and it has 3 stages 60 tow 80 race and 100 extreme my ? is i have a factory 3.5 exhaust can i run the programmer on race or extreme without monitoring my egts other than the programmer the truck is stock thanks in advance

btw i never haul any loads my fifteen foot aluminum boat is about the heaviest load i haul

[SmokeyWren]

No.

Rule 1 is to never let even one more horse out of the barn until AFTER you have at least a pyrometer. With a stock tune you can run right up against the exhaust gas temp (EGT) redline under some conditions. So adding even one more drop of fuel to the fire can cause excess EGT. And excess EGT can cause a piston to deform and result in a blown-up engine that will cost about $10,000 to fix.

So don't gamble with your wonder engine. Leave the Evo in the house, and run the truck with the stock tune until after you install a good pyrometer. And if you are likely to be showing off with your new toy, then get a boost gauge too. Under most conditions you don't have to worry about boost if you never exceed 1,250° EGT. But younger show-off can do it.

[dieseladdikt]

ok thanks for the advice quick ? though not to judge your advice which i really appreciate and what your telling me is what i thought but a good friend of mine which is very mechanically inclined has the same truck with the same motor is running and has been running for about a year a banks six gun or shootout or something like that and he said he runs his with a factory exhaust on an extreme setting and he said his egts never get to high why is that

I have the boost gauge already its just after buying the evo i cant really afford the pyro gauge right now

[blueknight7]

Then, don't plug it in. Smokey isn't kidding. My friend, you are rolling dice. With my 80 hp tow, or my 80 hp econ, I can blow past 1250 degrees, with a load on. Aluminum starts to melt at 1250 degrees. Sure the racers, and the pullers go past it all the time. But, its for about 10 seconds, too. One time too long, is $10,000 too long. Like I said in a previous post, gauges will not keep you from dusting your engine, but, it should tell you that you are about to.
Oh, one more thing, engines, like firearms, microwave ovens, women, and your neighbor's dog is law unto itself. Just because your best friend gets away with it, doesn't mean you are that lucky.

[dsroka80504]

Agreed. When I run my 120 race, my EGTs will shoot up over 1250 before a blink of an eye, about the time Jody's tune makes my boost hit about 24. Lots of stuff to watch. And trust me, it happens in a matter of seconds. I had no idea how much this stuff shot up until I installed my gauges. Also, I should have listened to Smokey's advice way back, don't buy crappy Chinese gauges (see mine below, haha) They are not worth anything and now I will have to throw those out and go buy the ISSPRO or Autometers I should have in the first place. At least I can still use the same sensors.

[Minutemanco]

I hope I can jump in on this thread. I'm looking at installing a new performance exhaust and Pyrometer to start the performance ball rolling. After that may come a tuner. My question is... is my stock auto transmission at risk due to upgraded torque and HP?

Thanks.

[blueknight7]

Yes, and No. Depends on your right foot. You pay to play. How fast do you want to go? Drive sensable, and with upgrades, your rig may last longer than stock. Drive like a bat outa He11, and Brian at BTS, John Woods, or the boys at Sun Coast will be more than happy to relieve you of between $4 and 5000 bucks, for your new bulletproof tranny. Just watch the gauge. That is the TRANNY temp gauge. Heat kills.

[charles1990]

ok so im going to jump in i agree with everyone i just ordered gauges i have went threw 2 stock tranny's tryin to get the power i want im not say gauges would have helped me not ruin them but i could have kept an eye on it alot better if i was you gauges would be the first thing i buy i just was not that smart when i started tuneing my truck.

[TransBrain]

Originally Posted by Minutemanco

I hope I can jump in on this thread. I'm looking at installing a new performance exhaust and Pyrometer to start the performance ball rolling. After that may come a tuner. My question is... is my stock auto transmission at risk due to upgraded torque and HP?

Thanks.

ABSOLUTELY. At the very least, upgrade the accumulator body in the trans, install a better trans cooler with synthetic fluid. Otherwise, you'll be buying a unit in very short time.

The Computer controlled pressure and shift control system for the trans needs help when a tuner, programmer, chip, etc. are installed.

[woodman55]

I have the same programmer and run the 80hp setting and tow quite heavy quite a bit an can keep the egt's un 1000 pretty easily but I have everything needed to help out. All advice given is correct, get an egt then get rid of the crimped exhaust pipe and spend $50 on a do it yourself intake and you should have no worries or at least technical data.

[Minutemanco]

Thanks for the replies. It helps me know what I'm in for - financially and in terms of time.

[Brian in MO]

It would be nice to know what evolution you have. Mine is about 2 years old and has the monitor that sits on the dash, with it you can watch 4 different gauges at once. I usually have boost, egt, rpm, and eot ( would watch tranny temp but not neccessary with the 6-speed). If yours is new I would think it would be the same. I might add you do have to run the probe for the egt because it can't get that info from the obd2 port.

[dieseladdikt]

It was the one w/o the monitor but I have since got rid of it my truck runs really good and I never tow anything so I couldn't see putting my motor at risk, don't get me wrong the power gain is awesome but I really don't need it for 130k my rig is still a monster it will run with the best of them