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Old 01-09-2006, 01:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rain and stacks

Ok, I know this may sound stupid and probably has been asked before. I have searched and searched and could not find what I am looking for.
How do you keep water out of stacks? Do you have to run out every time just before a rain shower and put something over the tops of them? I do NOT want the flapper on the top. I want 5" miter cut stacks even with the top of my truck.
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i just put 7" miter cut on mine and i think it will be fine if u drive yur druck everyday, the rain will just blow out or you could drill a hole on the bottom of the Y-pipe and put a drain in there.
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I'd vote for the drain hole. Just imagine the back of your truck with rainy soot blasted out when you drive it after a rain. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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I have 5" miter cut stackes on my truck and let me tell you im glad my truck is black everything get full of black spots [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bleh.gif[/img] i have a gooseneck trailer and i haul tractors, if its raining when i haul them they even get full of black spots. I love my stacks but they do make a mess I saw someplace you can get "flappers" for the miter cut pipes but I cant find the name now [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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On the ole tractor we used to put a coffee can up there.... was too cheap to buy a flapper for it.

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Engine Enterprise Sell soem pretty cool stack covers
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Re: Rain and stacks

just drill a small 1/4" weep hole at the lowest point of your exhaust. it's small enough that barely any exhaust will escape, and it will allow water to drain from the exhaust so that it doesn't throw *puddles* of soot everywhere!
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I have turnouts and have never had a problem!!
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Re: Rain and stacks

This might sound like bs to some, but if I ever run a stack, I'll actually have a small "water trap" that's lower than the rest of the piping to catch the water. I'll then place a large solenoid valve in the bottom of that section of pipe that energizes from a relay that is switched by the glowplug relay for source. That way it will turn on the longest when the truck is coldest (most likely had the longest time to collect water) but will not drain any power from the glowplug system but will automatically purge the system and then close once the glowplugs turn off, all automated. And if the exhaust system heat is too much for the specific solenoid you find then use a small section of tube to space it from the main pipe. Or just use a stepper motor/servo to pull a mechanical valve. But I honestly think you could find a solenoid that would work fine.

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I have 5" miter cut stackes on my truck and let me tell you im glad my truck is black everything get full of black spots [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bleh.gif[/img] i have a gooseneck trailer and i haul tractors, if its raining when i haul them they even get full of black spots. I love my stacks but they do make a mess I saw someplace you can get "flappers" for the miter cut pipes but I cant find the name now [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

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Even with the weep hole you will still get the black spots. Flappers would help but if they are open when running you still get water down in the exhaust and the black spots. The spots are from soot mixing with the falling rain or water drops coming off the cab, or off the stacks, the exhaust coming out, etc... Turnouts is the only way <font color="red">to limit it, not elminate it </font>. I tried a set of turnouts on my stacks when towing my WHITE boat in the rain, still had black spots.

Maybe I should try turning my chip down, nah, I clean the black spots off...don't tow in rain??????


Forgot to mention about when they fill with snow... when the truck fires the snow flys up about 3 to 4 feet above the stacks. With 500 to 600 degree exhaust temps it doesn't take long for the stuff to melt and/or evaporate.
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This might sound like bs to some, but if I ever run a stack, I'll actually have a small "water trap" that's lower than the rest of the piping to catch the water. I'll then place a large solenoid valve in the bottom of that section of pipe that energizes from a relay that is switched by the glowplug relay for source. That way it will turn on the longest when the truck is coldest (most likely had the longest time to collect water) but will not drain any power from the glowplug system but will automatically purge the system and then close once the glowplugs turn off, all automated. And if the exhaust system heat is too much for the specific solenoid you find then use a small section of tube to space it from the main pipe. Or just use a stepper motor/servo to pull a mechanical valve. But I honestly think you could find a solenoid that would work fine.

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Well your first sentence about sums it up for me. IMO it just seems like alot of extra cost and intricacy where its not really needed. I'd think that its going to be more prone to failure, but why not just have a small hole, i mean its not like you're putting a 1" hole in it. I guess I'm just used to working on all sorts of over engineered equipment where a simple design will work just as well and have only a 1/4 the failure rate, but thats just me.
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I guess I like the idea of using whatever sized hole I want that will actually evacuate the water, and THEN actually not have a hole in my exhaust system while running down the road, lol. Just seems crazy to purposefully put a hole in your exhaust system. But that's just me talkin lol.

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Just seems crazy to purposefully put a hole in your exhaust system. But that's just me talkin lol.

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....we have 5" holes out the end..... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]




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Lol, I guess I meant I don't like the idea of holes before the big one at the end, lol [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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If ya run big enough pipe under the truck the water actualy won't come out like a rain shower, but rather just boil out as you drive, I rarely get soot on either of mine, just a few black dots that show up after a few weeks of not getting washed.

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