Ready to Modify my 7.3L

[aklim]

Originally Posted by LoveTurbo

no problem guy i was bored at work lol. but yea banks makes some good quality stuff theres no question about it. just its over price and over advertised in my opinion. for what you would pay for banks you could get something just as good and better for sometimes half the price, just gotta know where to look and what your looking at. Mr Gale Banks himself does have the fastest diesel on the planet ?? but hes not makin a lot of big power stuff, atleast for what i have seen for the 7.3.

Doesn't matter how fast his diesel is. You aren't buying those parts. You are buying some off the shelf solution. IIRC, his chip package is said to be basically the 10K mod and you have to buy the TRANSVESTITE COMMAND for it to control the trans. DP-Tuner will control that if you put a valve body in it. Also, once you buy the stuff, I am not sure how you can make mods to the vehicle. I doubt he will retune the chip he sells you if you want to put a bigger turbo or different injectors like say a hybrid or single shot. Basically, you buy his whole system and be happy with what you got even when you see others spend less and get more.

[SmokeyWren]

Originally Posted by 444-4D

BTS does more than transmissions.

Yeah, Brian's first love was hot-rodding Ford diesel engines. But he couldn't find an automagic tranny that would stand up behind his engines, so he built his own tranny. And the rest, as they say, is history. Brian's son Cale wanted to work with Dad, so he learned his diesel hot rodding from Brian, and now Cale handles that end of the shop. So yeah, if you want a 400-horse hot rod 7.3L diesel with a bulletproof 4R100, BTS can do the whole shebang. And then BTS could stand for Brian Thompson & Son.

But if you want 500 reliable and durable horses, I'd still go to David Ladd for the engine in front of my BTS tranny.

[LoveTurbo]

Originally Posted by aklim

Doesn't matter how fast his diesel is. You aren't buying those parts. You are buying some off the shelf solution. IIRC, his chip package is said to be basically the 10K mod and you have to buy the TRANSVESTITE COMMAND for it to control the trans. DP-Tuner will control that if you put a valve body in it. Also, once you buy the stuff, I am not sure how you can make mods to the vehicle. I doubt he will retune the chip he sells you if you want to put a bigger turbo or different injectors like say a hybrid or single shot. Basically, you buy his whole system and be happy with what you got even when you see others spend less and get more.

that guys a joke and i cant stand seeing that stupid red BANKS!! sticker on the side of trucks. its sad how many people come up to me asking "hey what about banks i was thinking of going with them?" they just see banks everywhere like the 5 pages of advertisements in dieselpower and go from there. you want real power people have to get away from off the shelf stuff and get into somthing custom at least as far as programming and all the rest to.

and i want a job at BTS think theres any openings??

[444-4D]

Originally Posted by aklim

IIRC, his chip package is said to be basically the 10K mod.

What you may remember or may have heard isn't true. It is true that their chips are for stock injectors. I doubt anyones programming will make more power with stock injectors than Banks. They just make the throttle more sensitive so you think you have more power.

[aklim]

Originally Posted by 444-4D

What you may remember or may have heard isn't true.

It is true that their chips are for stock injectors.

I doubt anyones programming will make more power with stock injectors than Banks.

They just make the throttle more sensitive so you think you have more power.

I thought the 6 gun takes MAP sensor readings and messes with the ICP? I looked at the manual and that is all it can do.

And cannot be changed for anything else. Nor can it be custom tailored for anything else.

For the money he wants for his systems, it better. For that money, it doesn't even do anything for the transmission. For that, you'd have to buy another module. Can it make full use of a better turbo? Probably not.

Throttle sensitivity will not affect the dyno.

[pilot4life]

When I was at BTS Brian let me drive his truck...holy $tuff. 550hp to the ground for over 185,000 miles. He can build reliable motors, he will do mine in the next year.

[mnstroker]

Originally Posted by TinyScramblerMan

I called up Beans the other day and talked to Matt over there. Anyways I already have the 4" exhaust turbo back, wastegate valve, K&N Intake and Wicked Wheel. This is what he told me he could do for me. He would sell me a 1.0 housing, another mod to the turbo to take out the wastegate, Chip with custom Tunes, a new valve body for the tranny from BTS, boost spooler amongst other little things and he said 360 or so RWHP. And if i were to get the stage 2 injectors it would be around the 440 RWHP.
Are the Beans Chips and DP Chip comparable?
Does that seem to be a way to spend some money so that i can pull my camper cross country?
I am looking to get away from the Edge Chip and a few other ways to modify to pull the crawler hauler better. I went to SD a month or so ago and it struggled bad in the mountains.

Go with Beans, I did what you describe and love it.

[444-4D]

Originally Posted by aklim

I thought the 6 gun takes MAP sensor readings and messes with the ICP?

A six gun is not a chip.

Originally Posted by aklim

Throttle sensitivity will not affect the dyno.

You sure about that?

[aklim]

Originally Posted by 444-4D

A six gun is not a chip.


You sure about that?

Part of the Big Hoss bundle, is it not? The Big Hoss module isn't a chip itself is it? I am not sure how you go about switching the power levels although they claim 5 or 6 different levels. I see it as a superchips unit that sticks in the slip at the back of the ECM. If that is the case, how do you change power levels like I do with my F5 or the rotary switch? Only thing I can think of at this time is you send it back each time you want to change a chip. I glanced thru the setup for the thing and that is what I can see. Perhaps you could explain yourself more with more sentences instead of cryptic one liners.

Care to explain that one? How does throttle sensitivity affect the dyno? How does throttle sensitivity give you any extra power? It may change how the curve looks a little but will that add anything to the curve?

[444-4D]

Originally Posted by aklim

Part of the Big Hoss bundle, is it not? The Big Hoss module isn't a chip itself is it? I am not sure how you go about switching the power levels although they claim 5 or 6 different levels. I see it as a superchips unit that sticks in the slip at the back of the ECM. If that is the case, how do you change power levels like I do with my F5 or the rotary switch? Only thing I can think of at this time is you send it back each time you want to change a chip. I glanced thru the setup for the thing and that is what I can see. Perhaps you could explain yourself more with more sentences instead of cryptic one liners.

There is nothing cryptic about my one liners. I don't feel a responsibility to educate you but if you can read and comprehend, go to the Banks website and educate yourself. Their site is easy to find. There is a banner flashing at the top of the screen.

Care to explain that one? How does throttle sensitivity affect the dyno? How does throttle sensitivity give you any extra power? It may change how the curve looks a little but will that add anything to the curve?

So you aren't sure about that statement you made either? But judging from your last sentence, you may understand what happens better than you thought.

[aklim]

Originally Posted by 444-4D

There is nothing cryptic about my one liners. I don't feel a responsibility to educate you but if you can read and comprehend, go to the Banks website and educate yourself. Their site is easy to find. There is a banner flashing at the top of the screen.


So you aren't sure about that statement you made either? But judging from your last sentence, you may understand what happens better than you thought.

Been there, done that. If you are disputing what I said, I don't care what Banks or Zeus or the hooker on 5th and Main has to say. You dispute it, feel free to make your point. I don't own their stuff because I can get better for cheaper. I don't know all the ins and outs of it.

I'm reasonably sure but again, you made a statement, lets see what you mean. I want to see how you think that throttle response can make the curve better. I know it can shift the curve and make the driver think he has X HP more. I also know people who swear the shift kit gives them 50 HP. What I don't see is how throttle response can make the engine give more power on the dyno. I said throttle response does not affect dyno readings. You asked if I was sure. Lets see what YOUR definition of affecting the dyno reading. If it is that the curve changes slightly, probably. If you are trying to say that it gives you more HP, I would love to see that.

[444-4D]

Originally Posted by aklim

If you are trying to say that it gives you more HP, I would love to see that.

Actually I said this........They just make the throttle more sensitive so you think you have more power.
But none of this really matters for the OP. He won't be using stock injectors.

[TinyScramblerMan]

Originally Posted by mnstroker

Go with Beans, I did what you describe and love it.

Thanks

I know that he says 360 or so RWHP , but do you know what that equates to interms of torque. I am sure that it is going to a $hit Pot more than what i am exprienceing now. Just curious.

Thanks

[Scully777]

To all you Diesel Freaks.........
Thanks for all the info thus far. I have emailed Brian at BTS to start that conversation, and I have ordered some maintenance things to take care of that stuff until I get a plan with Brian.