Upgrades and Aftermarket - 99 & up 7.3L EngineUpgrading or adding OEM or aftermarket equipment to your 1999-Up Super Duty or Excursion with 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.
but there are a couple AT LEAST things that JW adds, in addition to the crap that bts uses, that i believe made a superior product.
Then have JW back it up with the same warranty if he is that confident of it.
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01 Excursion 7.3L Powerstroke. Gauges with AIH Delete, AIS, CCV Mod, 4' MBRP, BTS Trans, 6.0L Trans Cooler and Intercooler, DP-Tuner F5 chip, ITP In Tank Mod and Boost Annihilator, Diesel Innovation's Regulated Fuel kit, BTS Big Oil system, GTP38R Turbo with 1.15 A/R housing and BPD Stage II AC injectors. Bilstein Shocks with U code front and A code Rear.
BUT I KNOW, my 6 yr old BTS will be taken care of EXTREMELY reasonably priced, if the time comes for it to need repair.... BY EXTREMELY reasonably priced, I mean a few hundred bucks probably.
Limp or tow it there and it will be free. AFAIK, they charge for shipping at their commercial rate after 2 yrs.
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01 Excursion 7.3L Powerstroke. Gauges with AIH Delete, AIS, CCV Mod, 4' MBRP, BTS Trans, 6.0L Trans Cooler and Intercooler, DP-Tuner F5 chip, ITP In Tank Mod and Boost Annihilator, Diesel Innovation's Regulated Fuel kit, BTS Big Oil system, GTP38R Turbo with 1.15 A/R housing and BPD Stage II AC injectors. Bilstein Shocks with U code front and A code Rear.
With John's stage 1 transmission, you also get a billet converter that has more clutch material along with the 3m input shaft otherwise identical to the towmaster. This is where the price goes up to $4200, which puts it around the BTS cost. The higher stages have more 3m parts otherwise the same built transmission. I believe he told me the 3m output shaft was around $1,000 alone. That drives up the overall cost quite a bit, but will help decrease the chances of breaking a transmission behind a 600+ HP truck.
But if I bought a $4100 BTS, I can mate it to a 700HP truck or a 250HP truck. My choice. If you mated your Stage 1 to a 700HP truck, what do you think will happen when it breaks?
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01 Excursion 7.3L Powerstroke. Gauges with AIH Delete, AIS, CCV Mod, 4' MBRP, BTS Trans, 6.0L Trans Cooler and Intercooler, DP-Tuner F5 chip, ITP In Tank Mod and Boost Annihilator, Diesel Innovation's Regulated Fuel kit, BTS Big Oil system, GTP38R Turbo with 1.15 A/R housing and BPD Stage II AC injectors. Bilstein Shocks with U code front and A code Rear.
without calling both places, i can' tanswer that question correctly. i think BTS will be a little less than JW's equivalent..but no so much to be discouraging either way. If you're in ny, probably bts would be your best bet. i think if you call both places, they'll both be on the phone with you for quite some time and it'll be a tough call.
The internet has the answer. Stage 1 is $4200 and Stage 3 is $7400. I would say that BTS is a LOT less than JW's equivalent. BTS builds a trans for all power levels not just "up to". So, if you want to compare apples to apples, compare JW's Stage 3 ($7400) to BTS ($4100). Your best to his best.
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01 Excursion 7.3L Powerstroke. Gauges with AIH Delete, AIS, CCV Mod, 4' MBRP, BTS Trans, 6.0L Trans Cooler and Intercooler, DP-Tuner F5 chip, ITP In Tank Mod and Boost Annihilator, Diesel Innovation's Regulated Fuel kit, BTS Big Oil system, GTP38R Turbo with 1.15 A/R housing and BPD Stage II AC injectors. Bilstein Shocks with U code front and A code Rear.
i really want to get a better trans than what i have now and i want to get the best i was thinking of a ATS BC they use allot of hard parts but now i don't think i want them considering they want $9000 for the transmission that i want
Read the warranty. Use a non approved program or non-stock program and you have no warranty.
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01 Excursion 7.3L Powerstroke. Gauges with AIH Delete, AIS, CCV Mod, 4' MBRP, BTS Trans, 6.0L Trans Cooler and Intercooler, DP-Tuner F5 chip, ITP In Tank Mod and Boost Annihilator, Diesel Innovation's Regulated Fuel kit, BTS Big Oil system, GTP38R Turbo with 1.15 A/R housing and BPD Stage II AC injectors. Bilstein Shocks with U code front and A code Rear.
Just for clarification the shafts are 300M not 3M (It's the material)
I liked my JW but wouldn't discourage anyone that was closer geographically to use BTS.
P.S. My JW is now in a race truck that will be seeing 1100+HP soon and JW is standing behind it.
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2006 Dark Slate F350 CC LB 6X6 Lariat Tow Boss Complete with training wheels. Vegetarian, an old indian word for bad hunter!
K&N Intake, Coolant filter, Recon smoked LED litght: tail, Clearance, Center bumper, 3rd brake, Fat fender, Pressure pro TPMS, Firestone air bags, Alpine/Infinity/Polk sound system, Autometer Phantom EGT,Trans,Boost gauges above the rearview mirror.
i second that. Imagine if we didn't have the internet..we'd have to actually get our trans's done at normal shops! I'm glad that JW is starting to hold it down on this site..it's been very one sided for a long time in here
Hey dude If you do not like BTS, go to some other site, you are not going to change this site and what people have gotten at BTS for years before JW ever thought about A 4r100 TRANNY.
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Charles Murphy
Bessemer City NC
1999 f-350 4x4
BTS transmission BTS Tune 6.0 cooler Issopro gauges
MBRP 4" 304 stainless exhaust K&N FIPK air intake.
Hey dude If you do not like BTS, go to some other site, you are not going to change this site and what people have gotten at BTS for years before JW ever thought about A 4r100 TRANNY.
Wow guy, lighten up. People are allowed to express their opinions.
FYI JW has been in the hard core trans building arena for quite a while. He does a bunch of CORR / Trophy trucks as well.
Brian is a great guy! He builds a great product ALSO!
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2006 Dark Slate F350 CC LB 6X6 Lariat Tow Boss Complete with training wheels. Vegetarian, an old indian word for bad hunter!
K&N Intake, Coolant filter, Recon smoked LED litght: tail, Clearance, Center bumper, 3rd brake, Fat fender, Pressure pro TPMS, Firestone air bags, Alpine/Infinity/Polk sound system, Autometer Phantom EGT,Trans,Boost gauges above the rearview mirror.
Wow guy, lighten up. People are allowed to express their opinions.
FYI JW has been in the hard core trans building arena for quite a while. He does a bunch of CORR / Trophy trucks as well.
Brian is a great guy! He builds a great product ALSO!
Hey dude just my thoughts, if you want to talk s-t then let's go,
i just think brian is a better builder with a better Price and warranty
and will stand up to anyone who thinks JW is better, we do not back
off from any one here in NC!!!!!
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Charles Murphy
Bessemer City NC
1999 f-350 4x4
BTS transmission BTS Tune 6.0 cooler Issopro gauges
MBRP 4" 304 stainless exhaust K&N FIPK air intake.
Hey dude If you do not like BTS, go to some other site, you are not going to change this site and what people have gotten at BTS for years before JW ever thought about A 4r100 TRANNY.
the man's been doing trans and working for ford since the late 70's. and i'm not going to a different site. And yes i did mean 300m but we call them 3m as a slang term out here in my race shop!
not once have i badmouthed brian or bts trans, but how ignorant would i be to say jw is the best Hands down..end of story...no if ands or buts. i saved a lot of money going the route i did, and am satisfied that i wont' see a problem in the future with my trans. And i guran effing tee you in five years , he'll hook me up if something goes wrong. I drive the piss out of my truck, and i bet you i'll never ever see a broken input shaft.
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2002 F350 Lariat CC SRW 4x4 LB , Shadow Gray, Edge 4.5" w/ dual bilsteins up front/ Toyo Open Country M/T 315-75-16. Stock Motor 7.3, dual alts / 3 guage pillar pod, Auto Meter/ 5" turbo back magnaflow exhaust w/Aeroturbine muffler & 6" Jardine tip/ Husky 24k 5th wheel / Air Lift Bags.
John Wood Transmission / DP tuner / 08' rear diff cover
aklim - you are completely clueless as to the difference between a built-to-the-hilt JW trans vs a standard BTS. I promise you my truck would scatter the standard $4100 BTS trans all over the road. Brian does not build his trans just one way, nor does John. Those are the simple facts.
aklim - you are completely clueless as to the difference between a built-to-the-hilt JW trans vs a standard BTS. I promise you my truck would scatter the standard $4100 BTS trans all over the road. Brian does not build his trans just one way, nor does John. Those are the simple facts.
finally, some backup! Can i have a few more units on this call please? 10-4
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2002 F350 Lariat CC SRW 4x4 LB , Shadow Gray, Edge 4.5" w/ dual bilsteins up front/ Toyo Open Country M/T 315-75-16. Stock Motor 7.3, dual alts / 3 guage pillar pod, Auto Meter/ 5" turbo back magnaflow exhaust w/Aeroturbine muffler & 6" Jardine tip/ Husky 24k 5th wheel / Air Lift Bags.
John Wood Transmission / DP tuner / 08' rear diff cover
the man's been doing trans and working for ford since the late 70's. and i'm not going to a different site. And yes i did mean 300m but we call them 3m as a slang term out here in my race shop!
not once have i badmouthed brian or bts trans, but how ignorant would i be to say jw is the best Hands down..end of story...no if ands or buts. i saved a lot of money going the route i did, and am satisfied that i wont' see a problem in the future with my trans. And i guran effing tee you in five years , he'll hook me up if something goes wrong. I drive the piss out of my truck, and i bet you i'll never ever see a broken input shaft.
Don't sound like you running much HP in your truck, so I guess JW tranny would be fine for you, and no I am not running much HP in mine, I know Brians son Cale has a 1997 and is running more HP than me and you put togather and has a whole front lobby full of trophy's that he won at the local drag strip. JW may build a great tranny, but all I am saying is Brian will stand behind his better than JW will any day under any load or what ever you do to it. And no I am not ignorant to say Brian is the best hands downI just know that he stands behind his rebuild no matter how much HP you put to his tranny and to me that sets him above the rest.
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Charles Murphy
Bessemer City NC
1999 f-350 4x4
BTS transmission BTS Tune 6.0 cooler Issopro gauges
MBRP 4" 304 stainless exhaust K&N FIPK air intake.
trophies..wow. have you been to jw's lobby? more than just a few trophies. a lot of autographed pics of a lot of bad azz equipment and racers trucks with his trans in them.
I told you guys to get the popcorn this was going to get good! Hotstick, should i even mention what you said in socaps., or will that start another war?
reddgz..yah you're right about our horsepower...i'm running more in the turbocoupe thunderbird in my signature. And , dang , bts didn't build that tranny either.how is that possible?? there's more tranny guys out there that are bad azz? say it aint so!
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2002 F350 Lariat CC SRW 4x4 LB , Shadow Gray, Edge 4.5" w/ dual bilsteins up front/ Toyo Open Country M/T 315-75-16. Stock Motor 7.3, dual alts / 3 guage pillar pod, Auto Meter/ 5" turbo back magnaflow exhaust w/Aeroturbine muffler & 6" Jardine tip/ Husky 24k 5th wheel / Air Lift Bags.
John Wood Transmission / DP tuner / 08' rear diff cover
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AFAIK, they charge for shipping at their commercial rate after 2 yrs.
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