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Old 04-04-2006, 01:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bypass oil filter

I am looking to add a bypass oil filter. I was going to use the Baldwin 164. My Napa guy told me to use a Napa 1050 (Wix 51050). But he was not able to give me a micron rating. He told me to go to wix.com and look it up. So after visiting Wix, I crossed the Baldwin B164 to a 51704 (Napa 1704) that has a nominal micron rating of 28. My full flow FL1995 Motorcraft crosses to a Wix 51734 With a nominal micron of 19. The wix 51050 has a nominal micro rating of 10.

I thought the Baldwin 164 was around 3 absolute. What is the difference between nominal micron and absolute micron? Sorry so long just trying to get a good affordable bypass oil filter.
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Re: Bypass oil filter

Those micron ratings do not sound like bypass filters a normal filter
is 25 to 35 micron. My <font color="blue"> Oilguard </font> <font color="black"> </font> is 3 micron. I have had it in for 3000 miles
and the oil is still as clean as when I put it in. I will do a
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I called Baldwin and found that the B164 filter is 15 micron absolute and 3 micron nominol.
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I put an FS2500 on mine and alot of people have said that the Oilguard does the same for less money but either way, both are worth it if I can protect my engine. The FS was around 450 complete. Micro is down to 3. Less than that some say doesn't do damage. Mine has been on for about 7000 miles and it is also still clear as the day I put it on. Oil report at 5K showed no necessary actions needed.
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I am running an Amsoil Bypass that is supposed to be 1 micron absolute.
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Re: Bypass oil filter

I cobbled up an oil bypass last fall and it works fine.I bought a Baldwin Filter base # OB1305 for $32 Canadian, a Donaldson filter #P553404 for $8+, suitable hose and connectors and did the instal.
I am currently using a Fleetguard filter #LF778. The oil looks clean after 5000kms. As one can see, the price is right. I will be doing another B-Stone when I do the change. FWIW
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Re: Bypass oil filter

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I am running an Amsoil Bypass that is supposed to be 1 micron absolute.

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U wanna buy a bridge?

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Just to add less than subjective comments like "buying a bridge" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ....

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The amsoil unit is nominal to 1/10. but absolute to 3 microns.
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By Bob Riley on 01/02/03 09:31 PM <font color="red"> HERE</font> and discusses some of the other bypass filter ratings.

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Re: Bypass oil filter

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I am running an Amsoil Bypass that is supposed to be 1 micron absolute.

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U wanna buy a bridge?

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Just to add less than subjective comments like "buying a bridge" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ....

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The amsoil unit is nominal to 1/10. but absolute to 3 microns.
Bob

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By Bob Riley on 01/02/03 09:31 PM <font color="red"> HERE</font> and discusses some of the other bypass filter ratings.

Larry

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I could have gotten on a big speal about Amsoil dealer deception &amp; lies....I figured talking about a bridge for sale was kinder.

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Why is an "Amsoil Dealer" the liar? I see the truth "stretched" in every aspect of life if sales are involved. The Garrett BB turbo was touted as the greatest high performance turbo to ever come around by dealers......before it was even for sale. Garrett calls it a heavy duty stock replacement good to handle a few more lbs of boost. I see chips sold as 160hp, ICP boxes that do everything from giving you 100hp and even wiping your butt [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

It's up to the consumer to do his homework. It's very easy to call Amsoil and ask if his filter is 1 micron absolute. It's not by the way. It's also easy to say.. "I don't think your filter is quite that good"
There are sleasy salesman, but my experience with Amsoil dealers has shown me that most mean no harm, they simply don't know better. There a few real sharp ones, and they will tell you straight, and then there's the majority that tell what they heard without anything to back it up.
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Why is an "Amsoil Dealer" the liar? I see the truth "stretched" in every aspect of life if sales are involved. The Garrett BB turbo was touted as the greatest high performance turbo to ever come around by dealers......before it was even for sale. Garrett calls it a heavy duty stock replacement good to handle a few more lbs of boost. I see chips sold as 160hp, ICP boxes that do everything from giving you 100hp and even wiping your butt [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

It's up to the consumer to do his homework. It's very easy to call Amsoil and ask if his filter is 1 micron absolute. It's not by the way. It's also easy to say.. "I don't think your filter is quite that good"
There are sleasy salesman, but my experience with Amsoil dealers has shown me that most mean no harm, they simply don't know better. There a few real sharp ones, and they will tell you straight, and then there's the majority that tell what they heard without anything to back it up.
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I understand how this hits home with you. I have said in the past that I think you are an honest dealer. Unfortunately, in my oil escapades, the ones who usually seem to spewing the most bull are usually Amsoil hacks. If I had a dime for everytime I heard an Amsoil hack claim Mobil-1 is not a true synthetic......

I really think it comes down to just about any John, Dick, or Harry can become a "dealer" and many don't take he time to educate themselves on the facts.

You mean to tell me the GTP-38R isn't the worlds greatest turbo? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] It is when you aquire one virtually new for $510. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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If I had a dime for everytime I heard an Amsoil hack claim Mobil-1 is not a true synthetic......
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Actually Mobil 1 is a very good synthetic, however Shell Rotella is not a synthetic it is a hydrocracked oil. Like was said above you have to do your homework. I was not trying to mislead anyone, I was just typing with out checking my facts, sorry to anyonw that I mislead.
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If I had a dime for everytime I heard an Amsoil hack claim Mobil-1 is not a true synthetic......
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Actually Mobil 1 is a very good synthetic, however Shell Rotella is not a synthetic it is a hydrocracked oil. Like was said above you have to do your homework. I was not trying to mislead anyone, I was just typing with out checking my facts, sorry to anyonw that I mislead.

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I know the deal about Mobil and Shell Synthetics...I was using the Mobil-1 Analogy because certain Amsoil dealing indivduals like to spread a lie saying Mobil-1 isn't a "true synthetic". And whether Shell's Group.III oil should be labled a synthetic is a whole other debate not pertinant to this subject.

At least you are honest about not checking your facts.

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Thank you sir. And I am notably impressed that you recognize the group of oils that Rotella falls into.
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So what's wrong with Rotella?
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