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My first post so I wanted to make sure is was not a "it's broke how do I fix it post" so here it is [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I would like to put gin poles in my stock long bed.
Has anybody here done this? Any pictures? Diagrams? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
I saw one running down the highway the opposite way the other day and that is where the idea came from. It sure would save alot of time not building a flatbed and alot of money in steel.
BTW I will be beefing up the suspension before I do this. They are just to load and unload a trailer in the middle of nowhere once in a while.
I would plate the rear of the bed the same as you would for a heavy goose neck hitch, probably 1/2" plate, bolted directly to the truck frame. If you plan mounting the winch in the front of the bed, I would plate it the same. You can mount the headache rack to the winch floor plate. Put your anchor for the snatch block on the rear plate and it will be easy to let the winch raise and lower the poles for you. I have a set for the F-450 that I mount to the rear stake pockets in my flat bed. I reiforced that area as well as the front floor of the bed. I have not had them on in five years, but they have been very handy in the past. Used a 12,000# electric winch and can handle probably more that I should
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Redneck, I used to have a set that worked well enough to lift a load so heavy it would lift the font end of the truck off of the ground if the load was too heavy. It was a piece of 3/8 plate bolted to the frame with ubolts, that fit just inside the fender wells with 4" channel running down the sides the full length of the bed. The winch was boxed in with channel in the front. The poles (2" pipe) would lay over on the headache rack when not in use and the tailgate would close. The pivot points were just inside the tailgate on the inside of the channel. I do not have any pictures, hopefully you can get a mental picture.
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Picture the boom and winch on a very old wrecker.
Two poles 10-12' long mounted to the frame or reinforced part of the bed. The poles meet at a point on the other end with either a pulley or hook welded to the point. The poles are used like a fulcrum to lift things up, into the bed, or onto a trailer much like an engine hoist is used. The winch either raises or lowers the poles, or the winch cable is run through the pulley to the object being lifted.
One last question: Can (or should) I put the plate or channel on top of the bed and bolt thru it or should I pull the bed and mount it underneath and cut the bed for the pins and such to fit through? I would really like to use the bed mounting holes for this if it is a good idea. These ideas are pretty much what I had in mind, its great having someone else have the same idea. Makes me more confident in the design.
IMHO it should be inside the bed of the truck, you could use the same holes that the bed is through but I would use some stronger bolts since the weight of whatever you are lifting will be on these bolts.
I've seen the gin pole bases (dual ears with holes) bolted onto the rear bed on either side with a backer plate under each base. The gin pole has a tang end with a hole -- you slid the gin pole end into the dual ears base and run a pin through all three. Do this with both gin poles. The top of the gin poles need a connector crown with pulley. The winch is mounted to the truck bed near the cab. Run the winch cable through the pulley, raise the gin poles, and then attached solid tie down bars (also attached to the truck bed with backer plates under the anchor points)to hold the gin poles in place. Obviously, the beauty of the set up is that the gin poles can be disassembled easily and stored elsewhere so you can use the truck bed with only the winch remaining permanently bolted in.
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