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Thinking about securing my truck a bit better and replacing all the door handles with the OEM white with security feature from DPPI. I still think you need Jimmi Jammers but by eliminating the lock tumbler and just relying on my aftermarket key fob type entry system (without alarm) would it be any more secure. You could reach down the window channel and release the lock. What would you do?
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2002 F350 Lariat CC 4x4 Auto 4.10 DRW, DP-Tuner F5 live tuned stock, quiet, 40dd, 40, 60, 80 tow, 80e and 120r, B&W GN, BrakeSmart, 'pooned tank, tank and pre-pump mods, 2µ Dahl 100 filter, regulated return, BTS dual HPOP, AC singles with EDM 34 lpm nozzles, AIS, H2e, Spearco 6.0 IC, Hypermax 3.5" dp--> MBRP 4" 304SS exhaust, BTS tranny, 203º T-stat, Chevron ELC, coolant filter, Oilguard bypass with Schaeffer 9000, WranglerNW 200 amp alternator & Optima group 31 batteries, Nippon-Denso starter, SPA gauges, SteveRacer mods, Hella 80/100W 9007s, Hella Micro DE foglights, 1000FF driving lights, 220W backup lights, Stancor contactor, Michelin XPS Traction tires, X-Springs, Bilstein shox, custom bumpers but otherwise stock. Nov 30 '99 build engine with 16 K miles, Fluidampr, Comp Cam 910 springs, Melling LPOP and ARP headstuds.
Just for conversation....
I had a 2000 F350 PSD stolen, 25' gooseneck and all. Bought a 2005 with the insurance check and asked the dealer about security. He said "yeah, its got the coded entry keypad." I pointed out the fact that that was not security, that was another way to unlock the truck. I bought a brake lock (like a "club", but goes between the floor and brake).
Anyway( to make a long story longer...)I was down south a few weeks ago and noticed that the key hole on the drivers side had been "jimmied" I suspect they started braking in and looked inside and saw the steering wheel cover declaring I had the brake lock installed and moved on to an easier target.. not bad for $80.00.
HnH I have thought about this to, the only time it would be bad is if you had dead batteries. I have even thought about getting rid of all the door handles period. Just install the actuators that kick the doors open when you mash the button. This is popular in the custom car crowds.
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2000 Ford F350 4X4 Auto,Crew Cab Lariat, Western Hauler Package, Long bed,
Isspro EV Guages on A-Pillar, Coolant change from Green to Gold to Red,
SCT XCalibrator2 with DP's 60 tow,80 econo,120 Race
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Also just for conversation. Yesterday I saw a Loomis armored vehicle built on an F550 chassis. The door hardware was changed out, the handle was like ADA lever handle you'll see in new construction, and the entire square area (where the factory assembly resides) was a flat plate flush with the door surface. Probably not the most aesthetic appearance, but secure!
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Can you imagine the money you would make if you designed a replacement that didnt look bad? Something that would go in the hole and be un jimmyable? Maybe with a vending machine type round key? I bet you couldnt keep em in stock. Hmmmmm.
Have any of you thought about a thick cable or chain with a huge padlock that would go through the holes in your wheel? Painted orange to make it obvious? Maybe something like the wheel lock police use for illegally parked cars?
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Aren't the factory square assemblies made of plastic? Wouldn't the easiest first step towards a secure aftermarket assembly be to just make the exact same thing, but from billet steel or aluminum? With maybe a few extra clamps on the inside to keep it from being pryable even by someone willing to bend the door metal? From a distance it would look identical to the factory stuff, which takes care of the "doesn't look bad" issue...
Heck, you have to wonder why Ford hasn't done this, at this point.
Duncan
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If someone wants in, they will get in. I had a window punched out a couple years ago in my truck. Broad daylight at a park with other people around. I put a Viper in to bring attention to the vehicle. How much good it will do? Who knows? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
One problem with doing a heavier handle (such as aluminum or steel) is that you also have to increase the spring tension to hold it closed appropriately -- which makes it very hard to open. In certain impact situations with a standard spring tension designed for the plastic factory handle, inertia could cause that heavy metal handle to open the door for you, which would be a Very Bad Thing indeed.
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Wouldn't it be good enough to make the surrounding part out of metal and leave the handle itself plastic? I thought it was the surround that was getting pried/cracked out of the way by the screwdriver bandits.
Duncan
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When someone uses a slim jim it does not have any connection with the outside key cylinder. It grabs the rod that goes from the knob to the actuator. It would help if someone was using a screw driver in the lock.
never mind a slim jim. I can get into my truck with a coat hanger ( yes I locked myself out a few times) as fast as I can with the key. I put in a viper with the 2 way remote. I feel better about it, But not great
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08 f-250 6.4 auto CC SB FX-4 stock
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3/27/03 build F-350,CC,SB,DRW,6.0,auto,Black on Black,Blacked out bumpers/grill,285/75/16 Toyo A/T, 2" spacer, Alpine everything,Vector 1000w Inverter,16k Reese slider,Prodigy brake controler,MBRP cat back with muffler delete,Autometer luners on the A-pillar,Viper 5900,XM Radio
04 F-350 6.0,auto,supercab,shortbed, 8ft Fisher X-Blade, Hideaway Strobes, XM Radio,Alpine Head unit,X-codes, Edge Mini spring pack, Edge adjustable track bar,International helper springs 315/75/16 Toyo A/t,Prodigy brake controler,MBRP 3.5" downpipe,5"stacks
Last truck
sick, 1/7/03 build
shave the door handles and remove everything from the locking mechanism. then the only person that can open it is you. and then install a whelen 200 watt siren hooked up thru the horn ring circuit...that way every time the horn honks it changes siren tones...its so loud you dont want to go near it. my fiance set it off the other day and i thought i was deaf by the time i had the door opened and the siren turned off!!
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Originally Posted by TerminatorEngineering
1/2? That will be an interesting truck to see! :hehe:
Can you imagine the money you would make if you designed a replacement that didnt look bad? Something that would go in the hole and be un jimmyable? Maybe with a vending machine type round key? I bet you couldnt keep em in stock. Hmmmmm.
Have any of you thought about a thick cable or chain with a huge padlock that would go through the holes in your wheel? Painted orange to make it obvious? Maybe something like the wheel lock police use for illegally parked cars?
It is really simple to hack into a Round Key type lock, Toilet Paper tube, bic pen, and a piece of electrical tape are all that one needs. Videos on You Tube show how to do it. Works slick!
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Basics:
2000 Ford F-250 SD Lariat, 4x4, 7.3L Diesel, Auto, 3.73 Rear End
Accessories:
Superchips 1705 Tuner, 5" Super Flow Exhaust, Dual Stage Garrett Turbo, Magnum Force Intake System, Headache Rack, Toolbox, Goose Neck Hitch, Yaesu FT-8900r Quad Band, Icom IC-2820h with D*STAR, Maxtrac and TT3+, Spectra 900, Whelen 90 Watt Strobe Pack for Rear - 4 Strobes (1 each) Brake Lights and Backup Lights, Whelen 75 Watt Strobe Pack for Front - 4 Strobes (1 each) Headlights and CL Lamps, Code3PSE Mastercom 3892L4, Sho-Me Arrow Controller and home built arrow stick.
Wants:
Front End Replacement bumper/grille, Locomotive Horn, Air Bags (suspension)
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