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Old 12-18-2007, 10:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Brake Fluid Flush? What type?

I'm currently at 85k miles, and I think its time to flush the brake fluid on my 2004 F-350. I'm assuming that I can just crack open the rear bleeder, and pump the old fluid through the lines, and add new fluid to the resivoir. What type of fluid is reccomended? Regular old DOT 3? DOT 4? Any special type required? Thanks!!
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I use Valvoline syn power. It is cheap, synthetic, easy to find and has good temps. ATE amber is good also but harder to find.
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You cannot mix synthetic brake fluid with DOT 3 or 4 - it will gel up. If that gel gets into the calipers, it will clog up. I made this mistake in my race car and had no brakes by the end of that night!
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You are a grade A dip**** pour it right in. You are speaking of silicone fluid. Read my link compatible with conventional fluids.
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Wow. You got me. My mistake. Way to go man. Definitely shined there. You da man.
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We're all keyboard engineers and race car mechanics right. It is just fun when you catch one talking out their arse. It is only for comical effect I still love you. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img]
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You know, I started racing a Legend last year. I started knowing absolutely nothing - couldn't even change the oil. I ended up the year qualifying 2nd in the nation in the semi-pro division. I was moved up to pro for the upcoming year. I rebuilt my current car and built another one as well. I learned a huge amount on a forum for Legend cars, from people that knew more than me.

I started working on my truck after reading this forum for a long time. Now I have done quite a bit of work and can do a lot more than I ever would have guessed I could. Again, that is thanks to all the great people on here willing to help someone out who knows less than them. I ask a lot of questions - that is how I am learning. If I make a mistake, please correct me. But there really is no need to insult me.

Thanks for pointing out my mistake though. I do appreciate it.
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Castrol GT LMA (low moisture affinity) dot4
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NCfarmboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I'm currently at 85k miles, and I think its time to flush the brake fluid on my 2004 F-350. I'm assuming that I can just crack open the rear bleeder, and pump the old fluid through the lines, and add new fluid to the resivoir. What type of fluid is reccomended? Regular old DOT 3? DOT 4? Any special type required? Thanks!! </div></div>I highly recommend ATE Super Blue Racing Fluid The color change of the fluid makes it very easy to determine when the the new fluid has completely replaced the old fluid. When bleeding the calipers, the fluid will go from grungy black to brown to amber to green to blue and then you are done with that caliper. It is best to remove all the old fluid you can from the master cylinder/reservoir before changing. I've got blue in now and will change to their amber formulation before next year's towing season.
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Yep, exactly with haulin said and if you don't have a powerbleeder, I recommend: http://www.motiveproducts.com/index.html

I found this to be a great help. I no longer need to get a family member out there to pump brakes.

When I bought the ate, there was a price break and I bought the blue and the amber. I now have it in all our cars and just swap back and forth colors when needed.
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Re: Brake Fluid Flush? What type?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: haul_n_horses2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NCfarmboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I'm currently at 85k miles, and I think its time to flush the brake fluid on my 2004 F-350. I'm assuming that I can just crack open the rear bleeder, and pump the old fluid through the lines, and add new fluid to the resivoir. What type of fluid is reccomended? Regular old DOT 3? DOT 4? Any special type required? Thanks!! </div></div>I highly recommend ATE Super Blue Racing Fluid The color change of the fluid makes it very easy to determine when the the new fluid has completely replaced the old fluid. When bleeding the calipers, the fluid will go from grungy black to brown to amber to green to blue and then you are done with that caliper. It is best to remove all the old fluid you can from the master cylinder/reservoir before changing. I've got blue in now and will change to their amber formulation before next year's towing season. </div></div>



I highly recommend this product as well.
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The ATE Fluid looks like the ticket. How much do I need? 1 bottle? 2? Thanks!
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One would be just enough but if you need more thorough flushing two would be more than enough.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clydesdale</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, exactly with haulin said and if you don't have a powerbleeder, I recommend: http://www.motiveproducts.com/index.html

I found this to be a great help. I no longer need to get a family member out there to pump brakes.

When I bought the ate, there was a price break and I bought the blue and the amber. I now have it in all our cars and just swap back and forth colors when needed. </div></div>

Great product those Motive pressure bleeders. I change mine every second year. No over pumping the main cylinder. Almost to easy. I wouldn't worry about that color change. I just replace the master reservoir with new fluid, set the pressure bleeder up and pump a pint of so out of each wheel cylinder. The volume alone will get any old fluid out, not that much in the lines anyway.
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I have used the blue a few times and it was kind of nasty looking to people that didn't know what it was. So I stay with amber or clear fluids so my friends think I maintain a good brake system. That is what counts for me, lol!
Valvoline Synpower is a great choice for price an availability. It has better temps than GT LMA and about the same as ATE I use to have it all memorized.. I ran Motul RBF600 in my race brakes.
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