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Well I got the bushings out and the new ones in but I am not sure where the Washers go. The kit only came with 4 and the directions are not very good. Anyone know??
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Black 2002 F350 XLT Crew Cab 7.3L - BF Goodrich All Terrain 315/75-R16 mounted on PCW Wheels, 4 inch ProComp Lift w/ dual front shocks, Ranch Hand-Full replacement front/rear bumpers and headache rack, K&N air Filter, Autometer dual guage pillar pod with Pyro and EGT gages, Bosch Alternator, Viper 3000 alarm, NFab Nerf bars
Hey thanks tjsulli790. Thats they way I installed them but I wanted to make sure. The instructions that came with them dont really tell me anything. I guess since they are for so many different applications they just generalize. Thanks
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Black 2002 F350 XLT Crew Cab 7.3L - BF Goodrich All Terrain 315/75-R16 mounted on PCW Wheels, 4 inch ProComp Lift w/ dual front shocks, Ranch Hand-Full replacement front/rear bumpers and headache rack, K&N air Filter, Autometer dual guage pillar pod with Pyro and EGT gages, Bosch Alternator, Viper 3000 alarm, NFab Nerf bars
What a coincidence, I just got mine from the "Big Brown Truck" yesterday. Looked in the box, and was a bit cornfused myeslf. It is raining here today, so I have not crawled under it to refresh my memory on the way things hook up. BUT I wonder myself, I have 4 "1/2" style nylon pieces, with two metal sleeves for them, then 4 other thicker bushings, no sleeves. No washers? ( I assume you use the stock ones right?) This appears to be a "Universal" set of bushings...
Which bushings were used on top and which used on the lower side?
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
Here is a picture of my pieces, I have 4 of the "Hat" like ones, and 4 of the ones on the pen. The other 4 pieces, 2 large frame mounts, and two metal sleeves, are pretty much self explanatory. The metal sleeves will ONLY fit into the "hat" style bushings.
How do they go in? (The directions show the kind of sway bar link that my GM vehicles have, where you put the two halves on each side of the flat part of the sway bar. (Sandwiching the sway bar ear)
On ours both ends need the "HAT" style I would have expected...:shrug:
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
Those look very different than the ones I have. Did you get kit #4.5186? I will try a take a pic of the ones I have tonight if that helps.
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2001 F350 CC SWB 6spd WHITE Loaded up incl. X springs.... a work in progress. 'Lo Rider' tonneau cover with electric open, Bedrug, Southbend Con OFe, DIY Tymar, 05 front conversion, Hog Performance 4" turbo back exhaust w/6" tip, Stock HU with 2 x JBL 10" subs, Infinity components (4), 1500W Infinity amp, 300W Precision Power 'Old school' amp, Bilsteins, DR 4.5" (6" lift total) and 37" TOYO AT'S on 17"x10" WELD Renegades.
Life is not a journey to the grave, with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body..., but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly used, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming... 'What a trip!'"
No, it is
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ENS-4-5104G Energy Suspension Sway Bar Bushings
Bushings, Front/ Rear Sway Bar, Polyurethane, Black, 1 1/ 8 in./ 28.5mm Diameter, Ford, Pickup/ SUV, Kit
Today $23.39</div></div>
I got there by navigating through this route. (My digital caliper measured our sway bar at 28.5mm)
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(x) Remove Make: FORD
(x) Remove Model: F-350 SUPER DUTY PICKUP
(x) Remove Year: 2003
(x) Remove Department: Chassis & Suspension
(x) Remove Section: Bushings & Mounts
(x) Remove Brand: Energy Suspension
(x) Remove Part Type: Sway Bar Mounting Bushings
(x) Remove Sway Bar Diameter (mm): 28.5mm
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So if I in fact have the wrong kit, what did I do wrong?
Yours does look much more like the correct one, crap, guess I will be sending mine back!
But for those that know for sure, why does this call for it being a 31.5mm diameter bar, when I am SURE mine is 28.5? The links may still work, but if mine IS for sure 28.5mm then I would be screwed on trying to use the sway bar mount bushings...right?
$39.99
Estimated Ship Date: Today
Overview Application Warranty
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Brand: Energy Suspension
Product Line: Energy Suspension Sway Bar Bushings
Part Type: Sway Bar Mounting Bushings
Frame Bushings Included: Yes
Frame Bushings Greasable: No
Sway Bar Diameter (in): 1 1/4 in.
Sway Bar Diameter (mm): 31.5mm
End Links Included: Yes
Bushing Material: Polyurethane
Bushing Color: Black
Quantity: Sold as a kit.
Bushings, Front Sway Bar, Polyurethane, Black, 33mm Diameter, Ford, F-250/F-350 Super Duty Pickup, Kit </div></div>
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
I am assuming you have been here not that it helps much.
And I can see why you (and I) are confused. Seems you have the 1 1/8" bar vs. the 1 1/4" bar spec'd for the 4.5186 kit. Where did you order from?
I've heard that ES are good to deal with. Give them a call and they will probably send you the correct parts.
I think someone needs to do a write up on these bushings and installation as so many have this same issue.
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2001 F350 CC SWB 6spd WHITE Loaded up incl. X springs.... a work in progress. 'Lo Rider' tonneau cover with electric open, Bedrug, Southbend Con OFe, DIY Tymar, 05 front conversion, Hog Performance 4" turbo back exhaust w/6" tip, Stock HU with 2 x JBL 10" subs, Infinity components (4), 1500W Infinity amp, 300W Precision Power 'Old school' amp, Bilsteins, DR 4.5" (6" lift total) and 37" TOYO AT'S on 17"x10" WELD Renegades.
Life is not a journey to the grave, with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body..., but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly used, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming... 'What a trip!'"
I ordered directly from Summitt Racing, I will call them tomorrow morning and find out what is going on. And if they offer the proper kit with the 1 1/8" frame bushings.
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JimTJr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I ordered directly from Summitt Racing, I will call them tomorrow morning and find out what is going on. And if they offer the proper kit with the 1 1/8" frame bushings. </div></div>Jim, Call ES directly and explain to them what happened. They'll probably just send you the correct parts. I ordered the set from Summit Racing, thinking that they'd fit my 1/99 truck, but the end link bushings were too big for the links. They sent the proper end link bushings and sleeves out to me gratis [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cool.gif[/img].
Cool I will do this asap. Thanks Kevin,, Couldn't find a phone number for ES, (No phone support available) Sent them an e-mail. I also am on the phone with summitt.
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
Just got off the phone with SUMMITT. The rep told me that there were several Different variations for our trucks? (Sway bar diameters depth of the frame mount, ect...) If you have the 1 1/8" or 28.5mm sway bar. With a 2.5" deep frame bushing. The part number kit we need is, 45107. HOWEVER Summitt is out, (Go figure) and ES is closed for now... seems they are hoping and praying their building survives one of the Fires in CA.
So I will send the wrong kit back to Summitt, and look for other sources for the kit, or keep driving it with the rattle until ES is back in business again.
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
And if you want to get rid of the rattle, remove the bar. You will have to do it anyway and it will confirm the rattle is from the lousy swaybar bushings.
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2001 F350 CC SWB 6spd WHITE Loaded up incl. X springs.... a work in progress. 'Lo Rider' tonneau cover with electric open, Bedrug, Southbend Con OFe, DIY Tymar, 05 front conversion, Hog Performance 4" turbo back exhaust w/6" tip, Stock HU with 2 x JBL 10" subs, Infinity components (4), 1500W Infinity amp, 300W Precision Power 'Old school' amp, Bilsteins, DR 4.5" (6" lift total) and 37" TOYO AT'S on 17"x10" WELD Renegades.
Life is not a journey to the grave, with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body..., but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly used, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming... 'What a trip!'"
I know it's the bar. It has been there for a couple months. I tried moving it with my bare hands back then, and couldn't get it to budge. NOW I can move it easily on the passenger side.
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
Also no phone support from them, and I have not gotten an email answer back, since last week!
I absolutely hate dealing with companys like that. Guess they do not want my money!
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Jim T.*48* SLAPS Co-Founder, 30.8 yrs RETIRED UAW 6/01/06, Now a full time Technician in the MOANG 12/10/07 My pics! and my New'03 Dually pics!, Charcoal Grey, Black and Grey interior, Black leather seats, Van Turbo/ATS ported housing/WW, Quad "A" pillar pod with Carbon Fiber series AUTO METER Gauges, FUMOTO Valve. BTS BUBBA" /TS 4pos chip, 4" Turbo back straight pipe/stainless 5" tip 131st F/W St.Louis MoAirNatlGuard We're losing the F-15s. BUT BEING HANDED THE KEYS TO THE B-2 BOMBERS at WHITMAN AFB, Near Kansas City, MO.!! We are Lindburghs OWN! Suffering from *PMS,, "Powerstroke mod syndrome"
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