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I don't really recommend changing the filter. If you want to, you can disconnect the cooler line and pump the pan dry by running the engine. Then remove the pan without it being full and change the filter. The internal filter doesn't need to be changed, it only keeps boulders from getting into the pump. The external filter is the fine one that needs changing.
A "Former Automatic Transmission Engineer 1988-2007" telling someone that "I don't really recommend changing the filter" and to "pump the pan dry by running the engine"? Typical of an engineer to give instructions on how to do something that they themselves can't do. The pan and the converter both have drain plugs, use them. Do not run your transmission dry. Filters are cheap, the gasket is reusable and it would not hurt a thing to drop the pan, clean out the sludge and take a look around.
I would have to agree with the last statement. I changed the fluid in my explorer and the new fluid cleaned out the gunk in the trans and yes it did start to act up. I took it to ford and had them flush the system and it was as good as new again.
A "Former Automatic Transmission Engineer 1988-2007" telling someone that "I don't really recommend changing the filter" and to "pump the pan dry by running the engine"? Typical of an engineer to give instructions on how to do something that they themselves can't do. The pan and the converter both have drain plugs, use them. Do not run your transmission dry. Filters are cheap, the gasket is reusable and it would not hurt a thing to drop the pan, clean out the sludge and take a look around.
And ignorance is priceless. It turns out that the torqshift converter does NOT have a drain plug in it, and the only way to get fluid out of it is to get the trans to operating temp and flush it out with new fluid that is also at operating temp, otherwise the thermostat in it shuts off the flow.
I'd listen to Mark.
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Mark, I respectfully disagree about changing the filter. When I finally got around to changing mine at about 140K or so there was a lot of grey sludge in and around the filter which definately impeded flow through the filter.
To say the least I was suprised and pi$$ed at myself for not changing it sooner and consider myself lucky on still having the original transmission.
And ignorance is priceless. It turns out that the torqshift converter does NOT have a drain plug in it, and the only way to get fluid out of it is to get the trans to operating temp and flush it out with new fluid that is also at operating temp, otherwise the thermostat in it shuts off the flow.
I'd listen to Mark.
If you would back up and read, your hero Mark was responding to a question from rkpatt who appears to have an e4od. Ignorance is priceless. Obviously you can afford it. The e4od and the 4r100 factory converters both have drain plugs. I do not remember anyone mentioning the 5r110 (torqueshift) transmission. I have an idea, why don't you follow his advice and run your engine with the transmission cooler lines disconnected till the fluid is out and then let's hear you say "I'd listen to mark".
If you would back up and read, your hero Mark was responding to a question from rkpatt who appears to have an e4od. Ignorance is priceless. Obviously you can afford it. The e4od and the 4r100 factory converters both have drain plugs.
Some do and some don't.
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I do not remember anyone mentioning the 5r110 (torqueshift) transmission.
Timid1 mentioned one.
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I have an idea, why don't you follow his advice and run your engine with the transmission cooler lines disconnected till the fluid is out and then let's hear you say "I'd listen to mark".
It's a common practice. What do you think will happen?
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My mistake, every e4od and 4r100 I've worked around had a drain plug. rkpatt asked the question not Timid1. rkpatt has a e4od not a 5r110. It is not common a practice to run a transmission pump dry! By reading your other posts and threads, it's obvious and others agree, you (444-4D) are a forum fighter and like to act like a ####. I like to give and receive descent advice, it is what I joined this forum for. When I hear bad advice I will chime in. Recommending that rkpatt not change his filter and run his transmission pump dry is unwise. 444-4D if you have something constructive to say, say it. Stop trolling the posts looking for a fight.
My mistake, every e4od and 4r100 I've worked around had a drain plug. rkpatt asked the question not Timid1. rkpatt has a e4od not a 5r110. It is not common a practice to run a transmission pump dry! By reading your other posts and threads, it's obvious and others agree, you (444-4D) are a forum fighter and like to act like a ####. I like to give and receive descent advice, it is what I joined this forum for. When I hear bad advice I will chime in. Recommending that rkpatt not change his filter and run his transmission pump dry is unwise. 444-4D if you have something constructive to say, say it. Stop trolling the posts looking for a fight.
If you want to stick your lip out that's ok with me. I have said plenty of constructive things. Just look at the things you have learned from what I said. If you would pay attention to some others you might learn some more stuff. Here are a couple you might have learned if you would have read a flush procedure written by MK.
Run the engine until you see some air in the clear tubing. As soon as you see air shut off the engine.
Optional: Change the tranny filter.
I replace the transmission filter every other fluid change. Note that Ford does not recommend ever changing the filter. I've opened filters with over 300,000 miles that were not even close to being clogged.
Optional: Drain the torque convertor.
If your truck was built before August, 2001, then you may have a drain plug in the torque convertor. If you do, then you can also drain the torque convertor as part of step 2 above. Some people think it is necessary, but I don't. Running the engine in the next steps will pump the fluid out of the torque converter. If your transmission was built after August 2001, you don't have a drain plug in the torque converter.
You got your feelings hurt when MK told you that new clean fluid was better than old worn out fluid (after you gave some of your so called good advice) and started looking for a fight yourself.
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Automatic Transmission Engineer 1988-2007
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