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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phil Sag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The steel brake line that runs along the frame rail in the area of the fuel tank ruptured on me today.
The entire line from the area of the frame rail fuel pump back is all covered with rust.
Is this a common failure for these trucks?
BTW
Does Ford sell pre-bent lines?
Or do I have to fabricate my own </div></div>It is common especially in the salt belt where snow, ice and corrosive chemicals accumulates between the tank and frame. I wanted to drop my tank to inspect mine this fall but couldn't find the time but I will before I tow next year. I have looked in vain for pre-bent s.s. brake lines. Custom tubes does not have them for our truck but will bend them to order if you send them the pieces.
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happened to me. my mechanic was able to feed a new piece of tube down the frame rail and splice it in with unions. not exactly a factory repair but the tube he got was better then the ford quality so it shouldn't happen again
I bent my own line and rerouted it up higher to keep it of the botom of the frame rail where the snow and gunk builds up. Then i ended up puting all new brakes on the whole rear
I fell like that Moe, Larry and Curly Christmas Tree skit: "I'm warning you .... I'm telling you ..... it's going to" .. burst.
"happened to me. my mechanic was able to feed a new piece of tube down the frame rail and splice it in with unions. not exactly a factory repair but the tube he got was better then the ford quality so it shouldn't happen again"
I seriously doubt that it is better quality then the OE coating. I have never seen a better quality from retail. The best solution is SS, which I think all brake linings should be made from OE.
funny ..I gave away my brake line bender 2 years ago saying , you know I haven't seen brake lines rust out in years ..guess the finally made them right.
now I see this...
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early 99 f350 4x4 crew cab
work in progress
I started on the repair yesterday and was able to finish it today, if the weather was a little more friendly it would not have been such a bad job.
I dropped the fuel tank and replaced the entire line from the union just behind the front axle on the frame rail to the rear of the truck, I needed to make the line from 3 sections of pre flared tubing since the longest I could get was 60 inches and the tube was over 11 feet.
I am disappointed with the quality of the OEM brake lines, why Ford is not using SS lines boggles my mind, especially with the price these trucks cost.
I reported this failure to the http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov I do not think my brake lines should rust out before my factory exhaust!
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2000 F250 S/D 4x4 C.C. 7.3 PSD AUTO. XLT , Line-X bed liner, ARE cab high cap. / 2006.5 VW Jetta TDI my baby diesel.
No automotive manufacturers make the brake lines out of stainless (but they do for the fuel lines!). The situation with the Ford (and other brand pickups) is quite common, and once a vehicle is over 5 years old it's advisable to check the brake lines every few years.
Other big factor is the new de-icing compounds used in the northern states. These are having a huge effect on commercial trucks and trailers, including their electrical systems. Mag Chloride, and the like are not your friend.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: FMTRVT</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No automotive manufacturers make the brake lines out of stainless (but they do for the fuel lines!). The situation with the Ford (and other brand pickups) is quite common, and once a vehicle is over 5 years old it's advisable to check the brake lines every few years.
Other big factor is the new de-icing compounds used in the northern states. These are having a huge effect on commercial trucks and trailers, including their electrical systems. Mag Chloride, and the like are not your friend. </div></div>
Where the line rotted on my truck the line was hidden behind the fuel tank and not easy to inspect.
If the snow melting chemicals are much harsher today then the parts on our vehicles (all manufactures vehicles) needs to be updated.
The days of disposable vehicles are long gone, with the cost of these trucks tipping $50,000 a 10 year life must be expected and the safety devices should last that long if not more.
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2000 F250 S/D 4x4 C.C. 7.3 PSD AUTO. XLT , Line-X bed liner, ARE cab high cap. / 2006.5 VW Jetta TDI my baby diesel.
Not as easy to inspect as the open in air lines, but because it's behind the tank is why it's more of a problem. If you've done it before you can drop and replace the tank in about 45 minutes easy. Not that convenient, but if the alternate to me is to loose 50% of my braking ability when I really need it (high pressure emergency stop), I'll go through the work or pay for it to be done.
"If the snow melting chemicals are much harsher today then the parts on our vehicles (all manufactures vehicles) needs to be updated."
Or maybe the government(s) should do some better testing before they put something out in the field for use. MTBE is another fine example that comes to mind, of which we still have a few years before that problem reaches it's zenith.
"The days of disposable vehicles are long gone, with the cost of these trucks tipping $50,000 a 10 year life must be expected and the safety devices should last that long if not more."
The majority of the public does not want to keep a vehicle for ten years. As long as people are willing to pay $50k, there will be $50k vehicles made.
Another problem area can be where the line joins the hose to the rear axle... This crossmember packs with mud and such and the line can corrode prematurely.
got me today,, wow im glad i did not have a trailer on,,, because thats what these trucks are made for,,, at least that is what i used to think,,, this is bad,,, such a piece of crap for a brake line,,,, super duty my butt,,, im having 2nd thoughts about another ford,, ill have as much money in repairs lately as a new one could cost me monthly,,, hard to figure,,,, buy new and repair with the right parts,,, always upgrading,, to better after market parts,,, what are they thinking,,we should not have to do this,,, id rather pay more for the piece of mind,,, my friends new truck has a frame that looks like its 10 years old.... sad
Mine just blew out...between the tank and frame rail, similar to what others have seen. I was rolling down my driveway, then, nothing but floor; sure glad no one was coming up the road. What's my best option here - connect four foot sections together and push through the tank area, or......?
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1999.5 F250 PSD SC Lariat, LWB, 3.73 LS, 6spd w/ Luk clutch, Dark Hunter Green w/ Tan 2nd color. Century Royal cap. - stock so far...
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