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Old 04-20-2006, 09:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Steering Wander

The dealership is full of morons. They "can't find" the wander that makes the truck oscilate between the dashed line.
I'm going to take it to another dealer, but what have you done to eliminate the wander in your truck?

Rotate the tires?
And how do I get an allen wrench up to the steering box to adjust it?
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Re: Steering Wander

Pull the air box out and you can see it under your boost tube..i think its a 5/16 alen and a 16mm wrench.
I marked a line on mine so i could see how much I moved it. When you tighten down the nut it will move the alen head so adjust accordingly.

I have done mine 3 times and really help on the slop and wonder.
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Re: Steering Wander

Hey Donkey Punch,

If you can get a dealer to acknowledge that there is a steering wander issue with these trucks, and they fix it for you, please let me know. Mine is terrible and its totally unsafe when towing a trailer, especially my 34' TT. I have been to the dealer 4 times for this issue. The last time, they told me that steering wander is to be expected with a truck that is as long as mine...yeah whatever.

Seriously though, if you or anybody else that reads this finds a fix for this issue PLEASE let me know.
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Get a serious front alignment from a shop that knows how and will take the time to get both sides THE SAME. You hear "within tolerance" all the time, and that tolerance window is so big that you can end up with the sides being different enough to cause problems. Also make sure your wheels and tires are round and balanced. Don't laugh.
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Get a serious front alignment from a shop that knows how and will take the time to get both sides THE SAME. You hear "within tolerance" all the time, and that tolerance window is so big that you can end up with the sides being different enough to cause problems. Also make sure your wheels and tires are round and balanced. Don't laugh.

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Pine Knot is correct about "within tolerance." You can still have too much toe out "within tolerance." Get someone who really knows their stuff with these trucks. You'd be surprised how much a slight change in toe can make.
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Re: Steering Wander

Its been to the dealer 4 times and they even said that the alignment needs to be right on. They told me that they put their best guy on it and said that it was perfect. Its still all over the road after each visit.

With the truck in park, wheels pointing straight, I can turn the steering wheel 2 1/2" each way before the wheels start to move. I have to saw the wheel back and forth to keep it in the lane. Im surprised I havent been stopped by the Po Po for suspicion of DWI. I do a number of long distance towing trips with my TT, and belive me, it makes for a miserable trip.

Please give me some help. The dealer I have been using has been very helpful with other issues, but maybe I should try another dealer????

I have even tried another brand of tire thinking that would help, but that just set me back another $800....
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Re: Steering Wander

You need to verify that the slop is in the steering gear and then try and adjust it out using the adjuster on top of the gear. if that does not take all the slop out you will probably need a new gear.
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Re: Steering Wander

I think most of us have this problem. I changed the front shocks on my 01 F350 4x4 and got rid of most, but not all, the wander. I tell people that driving my truck is like herding a band of sheep down the hiway. As luck would have it, I live in a rural area, so crossing the centerline occasionally is not often observed by others. When I get in my wife's 02 F150 4x4, I over correct something awful.
A friend, a couple of years ago, took his 02 4x4 to a private alignment shop, they said a set nut was loose? Don't know which one, but it required some ungodly amount of torque, like 300 ft# or something. What ever they did appears to have solved his problem. If anyone is interested I can find out more. Maybe someone else has heard of this.
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Hey you,

They will never fix it trust me, i have had this issue sence driven off lot. Been in 3 times for this and now they wont look at it cuz of lift and tires...just try and do what i said above..it works good..what do you have to lose..just do it [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Mine had alsorts of slop, tighten 3 times and now alot better..still not as good as my chevy work van but good enoght where it doesnt piss me off to drive it.
And yes tires do make it worse or better. Mt BFG AT drove better then my TOTO MT's
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Re: Steering Wander

I too have issues since day 1. It just doesnt seem to trak straight for very long.

I tightened the steering box to the point where it was too tight and that was worse - it wouldnt return to center when you release the wheel. Did it again a couple times and have it as best as I can get. But the steering still isnt right.

New tires help but dont cure. Front end alignment helps but doesnt cure.

I plan to take the truck to an alignment center and have a good going-over by a specialist. Dont know if it will help, but I will post back with any findings.

Im beginning to feel that Ford has a problem. With all the related posts there is something geometrically wrong that Ford needs to belly up and fix.
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Re: Steering Wander

I guess Ill try that.

So I have to remove the air box, tighten the hex head bolt 1/4 turn, then put it back together and test drive to see if it got better? And keep doing that till it feels right?
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Re: Steering Wander

I would follow the shop manual specs for tightening the gear. on my 7.3 I think i can get to it from the top with some long extensions but on a 6.0 it might be harder to get to. if you pm me with a fax number i will fax you the procedure from my 2001 shop manual. The jist of it is you pull the airbag cover off the steering wheel and put a dial indicator type inch pound torque wrench on the steering wheel nut and then start adjusting the gear until you reach a certain level of drag indicated on the torque wrench.
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Re: Steering Wander

vapstroke,

I appreciate the info, but I dont think that my little torque wrench would be big enough to do that. If its that involved, I think Ill try another dealer since its still under warranty. Im gonna call next week to get an appointment. This issue is just too annoying, let alone dangerous, to live with.
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If it is still in warranty then tell them you want a new gear and have them bench set the preload in the new unit before puting it in.
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Thanks again for the info...will do.
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