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Old 07-19-2007, 12:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Symptoms of bad ball joints?

What are the symptoms of bad ball joints? I have a 2006 F250 with about 24000 miles on it and my recent trip up north I noticed a slight "klunking" noise and a rattle if I hit a bump in the road.

Additionally, what parts would you recommend I ask for if I decide to pay for the work to be done?
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

Malindor,

Not that I consider myself an expert of any kind, But I did have new Upper & Lower Ball Joints installed on my 03 F-250.

My truck had 135K on the clock when I had them changed out and I would be SHOCKED if your truck with only 24,000 miles actually needed new ones.

It may just need some adjustments made to other steering components.

But IF you find that it need them, I encurage you to replace them with MOOG brand parts.

Why, because the O.E.M. parts do NOT have any grease (Zirc) fittings on them.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]

The MOOG's come with grease fittings installed and will allow them to be lubed and therefore extend the life of the joint.

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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

Thanks for the opinion; I am going to bring it in this weekend and have it checked out. I sure hope it isn't the issue that I fear, becasue money is rather tight these days, lol!!!

But I was a little concerned that I may have caused some damage, as I do spend about 40% off-road traveling to various trail systems and thought I might have damaged it there.
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

Malindor,

Jack up each front wheel one at a time. Grab the tire high and low and see if there is any movement. If there is any movement then the ball joint is most likely bad. If there is no movement when using your hands, you can take a pry bar and have someone pull up on the wheel while you look at the ball joint underneath. Again, any movement means it's bad.

Yes, your ball joints can be worn just after 24K especially if you do the off-roading you indicated. It seems Fords are famous for ball joints going bad with no rhyme or predictable pattern as to when they wear out. Some people get your mileage out of them while others get over 100K. My right side ones went bad after about 50K. As JR44 says, I had mine replaced with Moog greasable ball joints. They had to grind down the top of the the top fitting to keep the axle knuckle from hitting it. What a difference after the job was done. The truck drove better, braked better, and the noises were gone.

My left sides are still OEM and have about 80K on them. The only thing I can figure as to why the rights went bad first is because the right side of the road is where most of the potholes and road patches are located. One last thing, if you do get the greasable ball joints make sure you grease them with the wheel jacked up.

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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

I got a "clunking" noise when I would pull forward or back up..... at roughly 47k miles they were replaced, and they were making noise well before that before i figured out what it was.
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

Like JR44, I'm no expert. mine was a broken bushing on the stab.bar
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

My '04 developed a drivers side "clunk" too and I did all the typical troubleshooting you read here... Tightened the sway bar end links, checked all the front suspension nuts and bolts, etc. Then one day not too long ago, I was doing a tire rotation and noticed the Drivers side front lower ball joint was loose and most likely the culprit. Simply jack up the front axle, support it with jackstands and grab the tire top and bottom and see if you can cause any movement. It was pretty obvious on mine and I had less than 40,000 miles on the truck. I decided NOT to have FORD replace them under warranty because I didn't want the same junk under there to have to fix it again down the road. I did the job myself, replacing the upper and lower ball joints on both sides ( Passenger side lower was also shot ) and the only special tool I needed was a ball joint press I borrowed from Autozone. I bought TRW lifetime warranty joints which come with zerk fittings so I can lube the BJ's every time I change the engine oil.
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

Thanks for the excellent advice. The trouble-shooting procedure sounds rather easy as I do have a decent jack and stands. I will check this out over the weekend to see if my suspicion is correct. I am positive it started on the last trip as I was on some pretty rough terrain.

Unfortunately, I will most likely have to pay someone to do it as my tool collection is rather sparse. Most tools I have are specialized for my 2-stroke dirt bike.
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

IF you pay someone to do this job, be prepaired to spend over 1,000.00!
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Couple of quotes when mine were bad, cheapest was almost 1200.00 from Firestone...
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

I'm going to swap out all 4 on my truck tomorrow along with the u-joints. Wish me luck!
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

Arent you still under the 3yr/36000 mile warranty? Or are ball joints considered a wear item like brakes?
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

Did mine today, no air tools, in the driveway, 90 minutes jack to jack. Including waiting on the rain shower.
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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

A few additions - When my 4wd F250 started rattling/clunking at 28k on washboard roads I figured out that it was the front swaybar endlinks. Disconnect one endlink and then try to shake it, if there is any play it will chatter on rough roads. Energy suspension kit is only ~$40 to fix it.

I just found out yesterday that now my balljoints are shot at 60k miles. Truck was going along fine, started pulling to the right, now clunks so loud and pulls so bad under braking I won't drive it. Happened all in ~300 miles. Time to figure out how to get it into my garage!

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Re: Symptoms of bad ball joints?

Well, it looks like it was a bad bushing on the sway-bar. Thought I would update ya all, since you were very helpful in your suggestions.
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