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Old 12-03-2005, 11:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What if you DO gell-up?

Let's say I gelled up overnight in the driveway. Could I just push the truck into the garage and fire up the heaters and "thaw it out"? For some reason I am picturing grease (the food kind) that is put in the fridge. It "gells-up". Then, when warmed back up, it liquifies again. Will gelled diesel liquify itself if warmed up again? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

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If you can't get it in the garage or a warm place try POWER SERVICE 911
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

your truck won't gel up unless its moving.....I tried the diesel911 crap when i gelled and it didn'tdo a damn thing, I towed her home and put it in a heated shop for a while...

If you have a garage to put it in why don't you put it in?
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

I do have a garage and it is in there right now. And it never gelled. I was just throwing out a hypothetical situation to find the answer to a more important question.


The fuel won't gel unless I'm moving? Really??? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

Yes fuel can gell while parked if it gets cold enough, whether the engine is running or not.
However, fuel can look good in the tank (not gelled) and you can still have problems running due to moisture forming ice crystals and plugging the lines or filter.
Happened to me two days ago in 27* weather AFTER buying 10 gallons of fuel at a little place where I had never bought fuel before. I added some PowerService and then some Howes and switched over to the other tank. I let the additives mix in the tank with the ice for about 150 miles while driving, then topped it off with winter blended fuel, switched back to that tank, took off down the road and never had another problem.
I was lucky that I had one tank with good fuel in it to run on while the other was mixing the additives and thawing out. Otherwise I would have been changing filters more than once on the side of the road.
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

How about just using Stanadyne Winter 1000 every time you fuel up and you don't ever have to worry about gelling up!
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

I bought some Diesel Kleen? at Walmart. It seems to have a bunch of other "enhancement" stuff in it. I just wanted anti-gel, but that was all they had? I suppose any truck stop will have the Stynadyne stuff? All I realy want is the anti-gel additive without all the other goofiness in it.
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

From my experience once you gell up you are SOL. It takes putting it in about 40 degree environment for a day to get things back running again. Nothing else helps in my opinion. Beleive me I tried. Avoid it by putting addidtive in every tank. Of course I did that and still had a problem in Maryland no less.
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

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your truck won't gel up unless its moving.....I tried the diesel911 crap when i gelled and it didn'tdo a damn thing, I towed her home and put it in a heated shop for a while...

If you have a garage to put it in why don't you put it in?

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Garage isnt for running vehicles! Its for projects and other non-running junk!

Sheesh! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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...Garage isnt for running vehicles! Its for projects and other non-running junk!

Sheesh! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I've always felt similarly. I want the vehicle to fail in my driveway. I don't want to drive it out of an artificially warm environment only to find out it can't take the cold 10 miles from home when leaving work. I try to anticipate problems but the cold seems to always bring out the worst.
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I bought some Diesel Kleen? at Walmart. It seems to have a bunch of other "enhancement" stuff in it. I just wanted anti-gel, but that was all they had?

[/ QUOTE ]Power Service Diesel Kleen is not "anti-gel". It will not reduce the cloud point or the gel point. Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement (in the white jug) is the anti-gel and comes with a gel proof guarantee.
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

with the abundence of fuel/ anti-gel additives, fuel gelling should be a thing of the past. but some people don't want the extra expense of a fuel additive, well for what a bottle cost ($9.75 for 100 gals) is minimal insurance over several $100 for a service repair or downtime waiting for it to thaw out.
i do belive that fuel additives are a must in the winter. however we don't get the extreme cold in the South, but i do use a anti-gel every time i fill up just for insurance plus it helps during cold starts.
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

id just run powerservice, its no different than stadyne, WHITE BOTTLE is winter, grey is summer...... Run #1 diesel. I don't even have a garage to put my truck in, i've geled once and that was because i had #2 in my tank and didn't relise it was gonna be as cold as it got, which was -3 without the wind chill. I made it about 12 miles and that was all she wrote, i dumped powerservice in it before i left but didn't get mixed well enough, trying the 911 crap and nothing.
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Re: What if you DO gell-up?

FPPF MeltDown is some good stuff to have on hand in case of gelling, and you have no where to get in side. When I lived in the cold country, we used and sold a lot of this stuff. At that time it had a different name. Often times on some of the mornings when it was well below 0, you'd take the cap off of the fuel tank on the big rig, and see a white haze in the tank (wax crystals). Dump in a bottle of this stuff and you could watch the wax start to disappear.

I still have a bottle of the "old" stuff tucked away in the garage for when I take a trip in the winter.
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Living in the great white north (just 30 minutes from Canada) I can attest to having both a two super duties and a two tractors on seperate occassions Gel Up [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]

In all instances the air temperature (not wind-chill) was 30 degree below zero [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] The cause was either bad fuel from distributor and/or insufficient fuel additive for that crazy a temperature. The 911 stuff etc was worthless at that temp. Only solution was a +70 degree garage for about 4 hours [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] In the instances I thought I had bad fuel it was drained and burned in my waste-oil furnace. In the insufficent additive ones I added more and all was good.

I have never had problems unless temperatures dropped below -10. From December on every tank gets a full shot of additive...it is a horrible feeling to have it happen

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