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'96 Powerstroke won't start

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#1 ·
Replaced fuel mech fuel pump,fuel filter,rebuilt ipr,new icp and pigtail,new glow plugs,new valve cover gaskets the harnesses for under valve covers and the pigtails for outside of valve covers, all electrical connections were soldered and heatshrinked. Brand new interstate batteries. Truck cranks over , no smoke from tailpipe, tach is at about 300 rpms and it slightly jumps about 50 rpm or so .sometimes if I crank it long enough the cel light comes on but when I quit cranking it goes off and won't come back for a while. Kinda stumped because I've spent all this money and I've still got a yard ornament and I've got to move it soon because they are paving my road. Any suggestions? It will hit a lick or 2 on ether but won't stay running on its own
 
#2 ·
What brand of everything did you use?
If you used dorman, you wasted your time and money.
Just because you rebuilt the ipr doesn't mean Jack either. Usually the Solenoid is what fails.

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#3 ·
Was it running before you did all this work?

Regardless, start with the basics:
Check your fuel pressure.
Check your hpop oil level.
Check all fuses.

Since you had the IPR out, you've allowed air to get into the hpop. I doubt you'll ever crank the air out of it, so you need to crack the nuts on the oil lines and burp it. Do one head at a time.

+1 on what Jasper79 says - using aftermarket parts is mighty risky.
 
#4 ·
first, get the code. without the code your pretty much only guessing and wasting money changing parts. both of the above are great suggestion.

you can unplug ICP untill it start, that will default the PCM and get the injectors fired
 
#5 ·
It was running before, very rough, stalling intermitenly . I've been wanting to do the glow plugs for a while and it just made sense the replace the vc gaskets. The fuel pump needed replaced. It was leaking from the weepphole. I went out this am. And bled the air from hpo system. Hpop is full. I put a little goofy gauge on the fuel Schrader valve. It slowly built to 15 psi before fuel sprayed out of the top of it... I don't trust it fully... I've tried starting it with the icp unplugged, cel light is automatically on and stays on... Still no start..... I don't have any scanners or anything and I'm not spending hundreds of dollars on one... The other cel light only comes on only while cranking until oil pressure builds... Then it won't come on any more.... Only an expensive snap on type scanner I think would figure that out... Those cost more than my trucks worth so to hell with that
 
#6 ·
A bad CPS can cause funny run issues - they're less than $30 at Ford dealerships. Replacing it is the quickest/cheapest way to test it.

You need to know your fuel pressure - without guessing at it.

You may have a high-pressure oil leak. Rig up a 5000 psi pressure gauge ($20) and use it to block the end of the passenger side oil line. Unplug the ICP. Crank the engine, read the cranking pressure, and see if the engine starts/runs on the driver-side bank only.

This test takes the passenger-side head out of the equation. If you get 750 psi cranking pressure, you'll (99%) know the HPOP, IPR, PCM, and driver-side injector o-rings are good. If it starts and runs on 4, you'll know your fuel system, IDM, and driver-side electrical are good. Running on 4 will point to a passenger-side head problem.

Move the gauge to the driver-side oil line, re-connect the passenger-side oil line. Unplug the ICP. Crank the engine and look for 750psi and start/run. This test takes the driver-side head out of the equation.

If you get no pressure on the driver-side test, report back before you do any more parts changing!

For $20 and 1 hour of your time, you can eliminate a lot of possible causes of the no start/no run issue.

Trouble-shooting is all about positively eliminating possibilities in the least amount of time and at the least possible cost. Trouble-shoot first, replace parts second.
 
#8 ·
Update... I went on and replaced the IPR. crank the truck . nothing until it builds oil pressure. Then it will start to hit a lick here and there. It becomes regular and I'm billowing smoke and it smells like raw fuel in the exhaust smoke. But the Truck will not start.I can run the batteries dead . It will run a bit on starting fluid . but I'm not gonna put too much in it.whY would this thing not be starting on its own. Where there is smoke there is fire right?
 
#10 ·
DO NOT USE STARTING FLUID, bad things can happen with the glow plug igniting the starting fluid at the wrong time.

If you have white smoke and a smell that look like raw fuel, mean the injectors are firing but it does not ignite into the cylinder. Or injectors stock open.

Its not because the CEL is not on that you don't have code.

Like i said in my other post, you need to scan and get the code.


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#13 ·
If it is cool enough where you are located the glow plugs and or the relay could be bad. Anytime it is below 60 odds are you will need to use the glow plugs.
 
#14 ·
Did you ever PROPERLY test the fuel pressure?

Now that you have a new IPR, you might try unplugging the ICP again.

I would either scan it, or manually rig up and test the high oil pressure. Since I don't own a scanner, I'd test the oil system as outlined above. Remove any crossover line first.

But I wouldn't do anything until I knew the fuel pressure was good.
 
#15 ·
I cannot Stress this strong enough... Please have the Batteries Tested. They must be BOTH GOOD, and FULLY CHARGED. If this isnt the case, The truck may not start... I had to Switch to 1000 cca batteries to solve my problems. Les Schwab tested them twice, and said they were good, but ONE battery was bad. (850cca).Truck wouldn't start.... Throw in 2 1000 cca batterys (new) . Truck runs like new.
 
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