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Old 11-15-2009, 04:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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burnt uvch and vc gaskets

what would cause the pins that supply the gps on some of the connectors to be burnt and while i have the vc's off anything to look for or do seeing that it wont start yet.

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Old 11-15-2009, 04:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There is a whole lot of heat with the high amps going to the GPs. That and the fact the relay is activated way too long time wise. Unless its really cold where you are leave the control lead to the GPR disconnected. At least in summertime. Or you can put a switch on it. There are a couple ways to do it. Neither of which I am familiar with. But it can be done.
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also how would i know if i should change the glow plugs i am going to do it anyway but wasn't sure (162000 miles)
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I believe you can ohm check the glow plugs. They should be .8 ohms as far as I remember. I'm sure if I'm mistaken someone will correct me.
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If the beast will not start then it could be either the glow-plugs or the gp switch. The plugs were on sale 2 years ago so I just replaced them. I found 3 burn't pins so I made a new harness just for the LS glow plug circuit. I had both under rocker cover harness burn on me so I replaced both harnesses under both sides and both cover gaskets. All 3 years ago. I was at 8700 ft and it was 16*F thursday and it started w/o the plug and I just waited 1 time for the wts light. Fired up on about 6 then the other 2 kicked in. In other words, if in doubt and you need it to start, replace the gp's.
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yeah my initial problem was the truck would die and then not restart at least for a while then restart so i swapped the cps it was doing the same thing then scanned and swapped the oil sensor near the front lift eye (forgot name) still did the same thing and then i parked it for the weekened and it decieded not to start at all.
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Sorry, I was thinking you were going to change the glow plugs since you were there. Motorcraft ( Beru ) are the GPs to use.
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Is there anything else to check before I seal them up?
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If you feel like extra work you should check the armature clearances on your injectors. You can use a T15 torx screwdriver to remove the solenoid. There is a pretty good write up on diy-injectors.com on how to check clearances. You probably should have the tool to tighten the poppet screws on hand as they are known to loosen at times. One coomonly used tool is a 4mm hex bit, edges ground down. A better fit is a 4.5mm linehead bit, commonly available on Ebay as a 4.5mm or large "Nintendo Tool"
Also keep one of your uvch pigtails to the injectors so you can energize the solenoid.
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Whoa..hold on. If you have burnt pins on the vch then you need to find out why! Usually burnt pins indicate a bad plug, which draws more current, which builds heat, which burns the weakest link where the resistance is the greatest. Check your plugs out..check your connections out.
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Randy I'm going to put in new plugs and the new dormon kit is that cool or is there further investigation.

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That should do it. I just didnt want you to rebuild the connectors without finding the reason they burnt.
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I'm not loosing any oil from the hpop but there was oil on the conectors any reason to crank whil the vc are off to look for leaky orings on injectors?
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Oil on the connectors is usually because the connections got very hot and melted the plastic in the gasket around the feed-thru pins. Might as well crank her over with the VCs off so you can look at the injectors and possible oil leakage. Cheers!
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