Powerservice and most commercial fuel adders contain little to no lubricity at all they contain more ingredients that break them down.
Its the process of removing the sulfur that removes the lubrication of diesel fuel. These compounds are whats found in fuel additives, if you look at the msds sheets provided by your link you will see these chemicals listed along with a solvent. The reason for using a solvent is to allow them to mix with your fuel in tank and to also increase the cetane level and remove carbon buildup. As far as I know there is a huge importance of having this solvent to incorporate the chemicals back into the fuel. That being said how can you really know that 2cycle is evenly mixing with your fuel? It is designed to be mixed with gas not diesel. I could see mixing castor oil with ether and adding this to your tank as Ive seen home made diesel from kerosene castor oil ether and amyl nitrate. I find it hard to believe that major companies like amsoil and powerservice would try to build a reputation on something that would do more harm than good. If 2 cycle is so great why not bottle it and sell it as "diesel magic fuel additive". Ive been using PS and contrary to your source have seen significant improvements in mileage. Check out SAE website for some good scientifically backed info on diesel lubricity. Also I thought i mentioned that distributors are supposed to add the lubricity back, but can you really trust that?
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i see alot of people useing 4 stroke oil to help but what about new motor oil 10w30 15w40 ect????? will it be ok ? will it help lube the fuel system?
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This article was on the same site as you linked to: Flash Off-Road
It's a presentation by Stanadyne on fuel qualities and additives. They encourage the use of an additive, stating that there are ASTM recommendations for fuel lubricity, etc. but the only government mandated regulation for quality of diesel concerns sulfur content. So now we know pretty much for sure that nobody is checking our fuel for lubricity, we are just trusting the fuel companies.
Although Stanadyne recommends an additive, they do sell fuel additives
But I guess they would be the authority on fuel delivery systems...
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Its the process of removing the sulfur that removes the lubrication of diesel fuel. These compounds are whats found in fuel additives, if you look at the msds sheets provided by your link you will see these chemicals listed along with a solvent. The reason for using a solvent is to allow them to mix with your fuel in tank and to also increase the cetane level and remove carbon buildup. As far as I know there is a huge importance of having this solvent to incorporate the chemicals back into the fuel. That being said how can you really know that 2cycle is evenly mixing with your fuel? It is designed to be mixed with gas not diesel. I could see mixing castor oil with ether and adding this to your tank as Ive seen home made diesel from kerosene castor oil ether and amyl nitrate. I find it hard to believe that major companies like amsoil and powerservice would try to build a reputation on something that would do more harm than good. If 2 cycle is so great why not bottle it and sell it as "diesel magic fuel additive". Ive been using PS and contrary to your source have seen significant improvements in mileage. Check out SAE website for some good scientifically backed info on diesel lubricity. Also I thought i mentioned that distributors are supposed to add the lubricity back, but can you really trust that?
We are not talking about oil and water here. Yes they increase the cetane what is the point of increasing this level for lubricity of the fuel.? I run 2 cycle oil in my tanks have for 10k now best tank was 23.5 mpg avg is about 20. Why not bottle 2 cycle oil as something else? because everyone has done it.
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We have established that the distributor is supposed to put a lubricant in diesel when he loads the truck at the terminal.
But why has no one asked what the distributor puts in it?
That is the $64 question because that is what we should put in our our pre 6.4 trucks.
Does anyone know what they add to the fuel?
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We are not talking about oil and water here. Yes they increase the cetane what is the point of increasing this level for lubricity of the fuel.? I run 2 cycle oil in my tanks have for 10k now best tank was 23.5 mpg avg is about 20. Why not bottle 2 cycle oil as something else? because everyone has done it.
I never said that increasing cetane improves lubricity. The solvent is to properly mix the lubricants in the additives with your fuel in tank. Heres a simple analogy, think about making salad dressing, if you just mix oil and water they will not incorporate, but if you add some acid to the mix, say vinegar or lemon juice, they will incorporate quite nicely. Its the same idea with the additive. It just happens to raise the cetane level at the same time which improves combustion, has nothing to do with lubrication. And like I said before I have never seen any real scientific reasearch on the benefits of 2-cycle oil in diesel. If it works for you go for it. I'll stick with products backed by research for now until a bio fuel station opens up here and then I'll add that.
Jason
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