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Ether damage?

Got a chance to buy a '96 CC 4X F350 for $3500 or less. Body is straight, running gear great, front end just gone through, 100K, AT in good condition, etc... Was also a slope truck. I'm going to look at it next week.

Guy loaned it out, glow plugs didn't start it at -35, no plug ins so friend used ether. Now runs like crap. Guy think it cracked a head. What should I look for/test to confirm that? Other ideas/thoughts as to extent of damage?

Ad said it ran rough so I figured it would be the uvcg, cps or ipr... Don't mind tearing into it, I know where I can get parts and this would give me a chance to get DIY injectors done and swapped into mine with less down time.


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youll need to run a compression check--sounds like might have cracked--or broke, a piston---cant use gas compression tester as it doesnt go high enough--and youll need the adaptor for the powerstroke------

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My mechanic tried to start my truck on ether once. He never disconnected the glow plug relay. There was a big BOOM but the ether never helped get it started. Once it was finally running the truck ran fine but 3 months later I changed my Tymar air filter and noticed a black burnt area. See attached photo. The BOOM singed the inside of the filter. No more ether ever again for this truck.
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if you use ether you all know it could bend/brake something but even if the GPs were disconnected its hard on the rings because it cleans all the oil off the cylinder walls which will cause faster ring wear, just something i learned today...

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I seen idi started on diesel without the glowplugs disconnected. It usually burns off one or more of the tips and embeds them into the top of your piston. This makes for one loud knocking engine. I can imagine that this can happen in a powerstroke with the option of the burnt off glow plug tip hiting and damaging the injector tip. Idi engines did have a ether port built into the air filter for an optional ether system for use in areas like alaska.
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Just yesterday I had to replace the alternator on my F-450 and my men on the job was getting her jumped off due to batteries being dead. I went and was loading up some equipment and came back around because they were having a problem getting her started. I thought I smelled ether and low and behold I seen a ether can in one of my mens hands. I went bezerk on him. I guess he had the can in his car, because I do not buy it. He said that he had not used it yet, but I do not beleive him. I had them to let the truck sit for about a half hour and she started up and no bang. I was so mad I could not see straight. These engines will not handle it. Ether is for old detroits only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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In the WORSTscenary is less harmfull to use WD40 than ether.

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Ive used ether on mine but I waited a few to put it in and started gpr. If you unhook it it should be ok. I have growen up with diesels for 20 years and and a little shot should not hurt the head, plus dont run 15 40 when its that cold I run straight ten weight in winter.
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