Just installed the engine, and I can't get fuel to the engine
The engine has been out of my truck for a year and I installed it. The engine was pulled to replace the rear main seal. I have been trying to start it, but there seems to be no fuel pumping. I tried filling up the oil pump resivior with oil because I heard that this may stop the engine from running if it is empty. There is no white smoke coming out of the exhaust when I am cranking on the engine. I am new to the DI crowd, my last truck was a 6.9. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas why the truck wouldn't be pumping fuel, or how I can get this SOB running?
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Just thinking out loud: Do you hear the fuel pump pumping with the key on? If not, maybe the fuse is burnt up for the fuel pump. The other thing I thought of was the emergency fuel switch up by the passengers outbound floor panel. Not sure if yours would have it or not, but if it does, it's possible that manhandling the engine out of there caused the switch to pop. It is resettable, if you have one up there.
Is the fuel bowl filling up at all? Are you getting power to the fuel pump at all? Maybe there's lots of air that needs to be purged? Or, maybe the fuel pump was questionable before the engine overhaul, but it is finally toast now?
How strong are the batteries? It takes some good, fresh batteries to get these puppies started.
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The OBS trucks have a mechanical pump in the valley, so you won't hear any pump running unless someone upgraded to the electric pump, which some have done on them.
I would say pull the fuel bowl lid, and see if there is fuel in there. If not, crank while the lids off and see if it fills up. If not then,, well that's fairly obvious aint it? LOL.....
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Since the in-valley fuel pump sucks all the way from the tank, you have to be absolutley sure there isn't a leak in the line allowing air in. If there's air in the pump, it compresses and will pump LOTS LESS volume.
You could try putting a little pressure on the tank with a shop vac and rag seal at the fill nozzle and see if you can get the pump primed.
Since the in-valley fuel pump sucks all the way from the tank, you have to be absolutley sure there isn't a leak in the line allowing air in. If there's air in the pump, it compresses and will pump LOTS LESS volume.
You could try putting a little pressure on the tank with a shop vac and rag seal at the fill nozzle and see if you can get the pump primed.
This sounds like a good Idea. Im gonna try to pressurize the system, because after severe cranking, when I hit the purge there is the smallest plunk of air that comes out. I also forgot to mention that this thing is an Ambulance package.
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94-1/2 F350 Dana 60 strait axle 4.88 spooled, 14-bolt 10.5 4.88 detroit with disk brake conversion, 6" suspention, 5-speed, Banks intercooler, straightpipe, NP 205 T-case, 1410 U-Joints & Yokes, 40/13.50r18 ProComp X-Terrains, Bullydog Chip & injectors, Centerforce Stage 3 clutch, Flex-a-Lite Aluminum Diamondplate electric fan, water methanol, Bedlinered paintjob, blows the black smoke, etc... OUTLAWZ 4 LIFE!!!
I am getting fuel pressure now, but the damb thing still won't start. If I spray some starting fluid into the air intake, it starts, but not even long enough to idle. Is there some way that you have to bleed the injectors or something?
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94-1/2 F350 Dana 60 strait axle 4.88 spooled, 14-bolt 10.5 4.88 detroit with disk brake conversion, 6" suspention, 5-speed, Banks intercooler, straightpipe, NP 205 T-case, 1410 U-Joints & Yokes, 40/13.50r18 ProComp X-Terrains, Bullydog Chip & injectors, Centerforce Stage 3 clutch, Flex-a-Lite Aluminum Diamondplate electric fan, water methanol, Bedlinered paintjob, blows the black smoke, etc... OUTLAWZ 4 LIFE!!!
Did you verify there is fuel in the filter bowl on top of the engine ? If not, pour it full and crank again to see if it'll start.
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I am getting fuel pressure now, but the damb thing still won't start. If I spray some starting fluid into the air intake, it starts, but not even long enough to idle. Is there some way that you have to bleed the injectors or something?
Indirectly, to "bleed" the hpo supply to the injectors, there are a series of plugs in each head where the hpo feed lines connect. Remove a plug on one head and crank until you see oil flow, then plug, move onto the other head and repeat. When you see oil flow, the galleys, lines, hpor and hpop are full. Keep an eye on the hpor and refill as required.
Do you see rpm while cranking?
You have verified fuel pressure.
Keep batts charged up. Give your starter a break.
Be careful with the starting fluid...
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Midnight black '94 * F-250 * 4x4 * ZF-5 * 3:55 * cc/lwb * RDS Single Shot Stage I's* TDP 6pos chip * BDP electric fuel * BDP D-66 Turbo * IDM Mod * Hypermax 3x4" dp * Authentic Tymar intake* 7.3 Intercooler * gutted ebpv * 4" exhaust & 5" tip * LUK clutch * A-pillar pod w/ Auto Meter NV boost, pyro and water temp gauges * reverse dash lighting and hvac controls * Optima yellow top batts D75/25, both on the right side * HPO X-over mod * manually controlled gp's * cruise control mod * add-a-leaf (front) * AC mod
Indirectly, to "bleed" the hpo supply to the injectors, there are a series of plugs in each head where the hpo feed lines connect. Remove a plug on one head and crank until you see oil flow, then plug, move onto the other head and repeat. When you see oil flow, the galleys, lines, hpor and hpop are full. Keep an eye on the hpor and refill as required.
Do you see rpm while cranking?
You have verified fuel pressure.
Keep batts charged up. Give your starter a break.
Be careful with the starting fluid...
I am going to check those plugs on the heads to make sure that there is oil flowing. The HPOP is full. It is cranking around 250-275 RPMs. I don't like using the starting fluid, but at least it helped me hear this thing come to life for once.....
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94-1/2 F350 Dana 60 strait axle 4.88 spooled, 14-bolt 10.5 4.88 detroit with disk brake conversion, 6" suspention, 5-speed, Banks intercooler, straightpipe, NP 205 T-case, 1410 U-Joints & Yokes, 40/13.50r18 ProComp X-Terrains, Bullydog Chip & injectors, Centerforce Stage 3 clutch, Flex-a-Lite Aluminum Diamondplate electric fan, water methanol, Bedlinered paintjob, blows the black smoke, etc... OUTLAWZ 4 LIFE!!!
When oil flows, and if no start, unplug the icp and crank.
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Midnight black '94 * F-250 * 4x4 * ZF-5 * 3:55 * cc/lwb * RDS Single Shot Stage I's* TDP 6pos chip * BDP electric fuel * BDP D-66 Turbo * IDM Mod * Hypermax 3x4" dp * Authentic Tymar intake* 7.3 Intercooler * gutted ebpv * 4" exhaust & 5" tip * LUK clutch * A-pillar pod w/ Auto Meter NV boost, pyro and water temp gauges * reverse dash lighting and hvac controls * Optima yellow top batts D75/25, both on the right side * HPO X-over mod * manually controlled gp's * cruise control mod * add-a-leaf (front) * AC mod
I am getting 40 psi on the fuel pressure when I am cranking on the engine. Could the injectors not be firing for some reason?
No smoke, no injector fire. As stated by STurbo, check all connections. We know cps is plugged in because you have indicated rpm. Unplug ipr and check at the connector for 12vdc. By disconnecting the icp, the pcm defaults ipr to a high % duty cycle.
Do you have oil flow from the ports in each head?
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Midnight black '94 * F-250 * 4x4 * ZF-5 * 3:55 * cc/lwb * RDS Single Shot Stage I's* TDP 6pos chip * BDP electric fuel * BDP D-66 Turbo * IDM Mod * Hypermax 3x4" dp * Authentic Tymar intake* 7.3 Intercooler * gutted ebpv * 4" exhaust & 5" tip * LUK clutch * A-pillar pod w/ Auto Meter NV boost, pyro and water temp gauges * reverse dash lighting and hvac controls * Optima yellow top batts D75/25, both on the right side * HPO X-over mod * manually controlled gp's * cruise control mod * add-a-leaf (front) * AC mod
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