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Old 05-10-2006, 11:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

Recently I lost all turn signals and hazards. Se my post here: http://forums.thedieselstop.com/ubbthrea...rue#Post2867365

So the concensus was the multifunction switch was bad. So last night I removed it and was planning on going to Napa today to buy a new one ($60). But I still couldn't bring myself to beleive that it could be bad. The truck only has 95,000 miles and what really is there to break inside?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

Since I had already planned on buying a new one, I figured I'd take mine apart - what did I have to lose? Upon disassembly, everything looked fine, nothing broken. However the copper connections were discolored and just slightly corroded. So I cleaned off all the dielectric grease (it's everywhere inside there) and rubbed all of the copper connections with steel wool until they were all bright and shiny copper. I dissembled everything, which is fairly self explanatory once your into it. Cleaned them all up, sprayed it down with contact cleaner and blew it all out with an air hose to remove all the filings, etc... Slathered everything with dielectric grease and reassembled it. It's kind of a little puzzle getting it all back together, so pay attention while disassembling. Plugged it back in and wha - la!!! Everything works great!!! Turn signals and hazards work flawlessly!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]

I'm so excited!! Partly because I saved $60, but mainly because I figured something out that everybody just dismisses as bad and buys a new one. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] So don't throw yours out, just take it apart and clean it up. Unless you really want to part with $60, and in that case, just send it to me and I'll fix it and take your $60!!! The only downside to the whole thing is I don't get a new red hazard button to replace my faded one. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Re: Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

1996CC -- Thanks for the good advice!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

If it's any consolation, the new hazard/flasher buttons are all black. No more red. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Cheers from Orlando, FL! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

Black huh? That's weird. I guess they won't fade as bad. The button is easy to swap out if you still have a red one around.
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Re: Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

Had mine apart to try & fix it but... sometimes they just burn up & there is NO fix.
Glad to hear your's worked out.
I think I paid less then $60 at AutoZone, you might try them next time.
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Re: Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

Autozone quoted me something like $58.xx or $59.xx. Napa actually quoted $62.xx, but when they see me (which is a lot) they give me 5% off.

What burned up? There are just copper contact in there? I could see the wires failing in the arm, or maybe a spring or plastic piece failing, but other than that???

In edit: I see you're over 350,000 miles. I guess at that level, anything could go wrong!!!
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Re: Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

How long did it take once it was out?
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Old 05-12-2006, 12:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

Probably 30 minutes. The whole thing, from start to complete finish was about 1 1/2 hours and I was interupted several times and was taking my time (And I also modified the thing on the column that trips the signals off, in that time). And installing it was in the dark with a trouble light.
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Re: Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

Well done 1996CC. Just encountered your post while doing a search. I'd not read it earlier.

I ran the same repair on my 1995 when it had about 190K miles so my switch had seen about twice as much wear as yours. I didn't have more dielectric grease handy so I just tried to redistribute what was already within the switch. About 10,000 miles later it started giving the same symptoms. My turn signals and washer speeds never gave any trouble. Only the headlights failed to come on. When others duplicate your work I urge them to do a better job than I did on my first effort. Replace that dielectric grease.
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Re: Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

I had a newer F150 come in with a similar problem to yours, no turn signals or wiper functions, but the emergencies still worked.

When I pulled the column covers apart, I found that the plastic retaining tabs for the harness connector to the switch assembly had broken off.

What I am getting at is Ford sells a harness connector kit that is the connector and a short splice-in harness. I do not like the idea of splicing into factory harnesses, so I de-pinned the old connector, and pinned in the new connector from the repair kit!

Just throwing that out if you see that happen, there is a way to fix it! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]

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sometimes you get lucky [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] excellent, the part is $140 up here, so that's an entire days' cheque. I did try to fix mine but it was not that simple after 200+k miles it was toast. What normally happens is the headlight part burns out as all the power for the headlights runs thru that switch. Thsi is why some people have run relays instead.
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1996CC -- tell us more about modifying the turn signal cancel thingy. I absolutely hate the way this works now. I'm constantly flipping the signal back on after it gets cancelled by some minor steering wheel movement.

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Re: Multifunction switch - REPAIR it don't replace it!!!!

i just replaced mine, 60.00 at the dealer and they were cheaper than the local auto parts store, not worth it to me for that amount to try and fix it, but thanks for the tip om the fix
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1996CC -- tell us more about modifying the turn signal cancel thingy. I absolutely hate the way this works now. I'm constantly flipping the signal back on after it gets cancelled by some minor steering wheel movement.

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1996CC -- tell us more about modifying the turn signal cancel thingy. I absolutely hate the way this works now. I'm constantly flipping the signal back on after it gets cancelled by some minor steering wheel movement.

Cheers,

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Its actually very simple. I did the same thing to mine. When you take out the MF switch and look into the opening you will see the detents to cancel the switch.

The detents are basically a plus(+) shaped piece of plasitc with a hole in it which slides over the steering shaft.

Make sure the wheel is STRAIGHT so you cut off the correct detents. When you remove the MF switch you will see where the single detent on the switch rides between the two closest detents of the (+) piece. Cut off those two detents.

Its pretty self explanatory once you pull the MF switch out.

Since the (+) piece is made out of plastic, all you need is a utility knife to cut off the detents.
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Will the turn signal still self cancel after this mod?
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