Well i got a great deal on an obs psd. Fell in love with the truck when i first saw them before i left to the service. Well 12 years a plastic hip and half a leg later i am home. So i bought a psd and am finding i may have got myself into more than i can handle. On the way home from colorado to nm it was bucking a lil thought nothing of it. I got home the next day and there was lots of blue and white smoke. So far i have done the following this month.
Changed trans fluid and filter.New oil and oil filter and air filter.,New CPS,New IPR, New glow plugs with new relay, Did a HP cross over line, New uvch and harnesses, New #7 injector cause scan said it was bad. I am sure i am leaving a few things out but it has a bad mis or sounds like a miss. I did make a video of blow by and how bad it smokes. Can anyone please help me understand this unknown problem. here is link for 2 videos.
I'm no expert but you definitely have major wear on internal engine parts.
Questions,
How many miles on the engine? What type of service was the truck doing?
What type of air filter was used?
I would pull the intake boot at the turbo and take a look at the vanes and check the shaft bearings for play, my thought on this is it may tell you what has been ingested by the engine.
I'm no expert but you definitely have major wear on internal engine parts.
Questions,
How many miles on the engine? What type of service was the truck doing?
What type of air filter was used?
I would pull the intake boot at the turbo and take a look at the vanes and check the shaft bearings for play, my thought on this is it may tell you what has been ingested by the engine.
Great video's by the way.
There is 247k on the motor, The truck was a ranch truck in south colorado, came to the conculision that the owner would spray it with starting fluid. found the can in the engine bay. The turbo has a few bent blades but no shaft play. Thats why i get the thought of it may poss. may need a re-ring
My Mack truck did the same thing and it had a valve seat that had let lose and busted the piston and sleeve. I had to put in a piston and sleeve and head. I don't know why the experts here haven't chimed in here yet but I'm sure they will soon. A bad blower can do all of this too. In a gas engine we would just pull the spark plugs and do a compression test. A scan is definitely in order, I'm sure you must have done that by now. There is no making these trucks go without one. They wanted $100 at ford to test mine. The scanner is $250 and the Ford Upgrade $149, there is no other way. I will send you mine to use until you get it fixed if you want.
I just bought my first Powerstroke a few weeks ago. It's a 1996 E350 15 passenger van. I love it. I think the guy that sold you yours screwed you. Ether starting fluid is a deadly sin. Mine has 620,000 miles plus on it and it runs great. I got it for $700 because it had a bad vibration he couldn't find and he was told his ujoints were good. They were so bad I had never seen worse ujoints, frozen solid and beat all to hell. New ujoints fixed it. $60 bucks.
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Sorry was gone for a while got in a bad accident drunk driver almost killed me but any who. midwestconnection where are you located i would try your scanner if i could but would like to send you something first for colaterial or what not.
Im no expert,but I can suggest you fill out your signature for the bottom of your posts so that when the more experienced people on this site read your posts they have more info on your rig.Any mods,mileage,and year of truck will help them help you.Ive received very good info from the members of this site to help me.What year is your truck it looks just like my 97 crew cab.Did the scan give you any other codes?
Randy
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Did you try to crank the motor over and check for leaks around glow plugs and injectors while the valve covers were off? If the truck has been repeatedly started with starting fluid the violent explosions using this fluid could have caused damage to head gasket or possibly injector seals causing low compression in the cylinder thats missing and possibly excessive blow by.Your mileage isnt bad.I have over 285k on mine and it still runs great.Congrats on the purchase of your truck.It will treat you rite once you get her runnin well.
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colors of smoke and when it smokes are your biggest clues as to what may be wrong. Glowplugs make it smoke blue/white on start up then it goes away and runs pretty clean after a mile, injector o-rings will continue to smoke at any time, generally whne cold , then lessen when it gets hotter.
I am going to guess out loud adn say the injector o-rings need to be done.
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Sorry was gone for a while got in a bad accident drunk driver almost killed me but any who. midwestconnection where are you located i would try your scanner if i could but would like to send you something first for colaterial or what not.
The scanner I had ordered turned out to not be compatible with the Ford Upgrade so I had to send it back. It was used and I had bought it on eBay. The software I paid $149 for is sitting at there site unused because I have nothing to download it on. There coming out with a new version the first of the year and I am now waiting for that edition rather than spend the $400 for a version that will be outdated and non compatible in about a month. Sorry about that, it was on it's way when I responded to you. The guys here will no doubt get you going. Sorry.
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i have the same problem with mine. I am no expert on a psd just got my first one six months ago. What i did to find out what injector was bad was start it up and pull the wires on them to find out what one was missing. as for the blow by I have the same problem.
You need to do a compression test and/or a leak down test before anything else. They make adapters that thread into the GP hole to do this. The miss is very plain to hear in your video. That blow-by would scare me. Was it the same before the new injector?
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The blow by was never that bad before the new injector. I never thought that a head gasket could be a problem with compression/blowby. Also today started it and unpluged the icp all it did was kick the check eng. light on with no change in the way the motor sounded. I looked at the turbo today and it had a few bent fins. gonna look for a new or lightly used.
Last edited by ole smokey; 11-24-2009 at 12:52 AM.
Just a thought while sitting around poking my nose..... i mean thinking about this issue. The smoke didnt really start untill i put that cross over line when i did the injector. There is no oil leaking around where the new lines where put. I am thinking that mayby all the injectors may need new rings. Thinking i may put new orings on all injectors, new head gaskets. Think that is it. Any other suggestions?
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need to save for dp chip and gauges
other than that she is stock
If the blowby was not that bad before the new injector then it could well be that a oring slipped out of place or broke when you installed it. You got a long ways to go before you think about heads or putting new orings in all of the injectors. Why did you replace the injector in the first place? I will go back and read all of the posts on this thread here again and see if I can find something.
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I would give serious consideration to what I said above and if that doesn't fix it I would positively do the compression test mentioned above. A compression test is a tell all in a situation like this. It looks like you bought a smoker in the first place and then it got worse when you changed the injector. If your sure the injector is OK it could be that it had heavy oil in it when you bought it and when you changed the oil to a lighter oil the smoking became greater, thick oil will cover up a lot of smoking for awhile, say 50 weight vs 20 weight. We often put heavy oil in motors with excessive blowby to fill the ring and valve gaps and get some more miles out of them if we don't want to do a overhaul. It will raise compression and slow down leaks and smoking and blowby and knocks, used car dealers have done this a lot over the years. When there cold they sound pretty good but after they warm up and the oil thins they don't sound so good. After a oil change to the proper oil thickness they will go back to there actual condition.
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