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Old 04-28-2008, 07:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Power down alittle grey to black smoke rear tanks?

I took a trip (2200 mile with toy box) last week and a few things started to happen. First off the engine started to act like it was running out of fuel on the rear tank at 1/4. I would switch tanks and it would run fine. Then my son mentioned that there was quite a bit of grey to black exhaust. Since I was on the road I added sea foam and fuel drier to the rear tank but the it keptrun funny at 1/4 tank and yes the smoke was still there. Mid way though the trip I changed the fuel filter with no improvement.

When I got home I drained the rear fuel tank add some more sea foam and drier. I then refilled the rear tank to 1/3 and when I got to 1/4 tank same thing happened. I changed the fuel filter again noticed that the bowl was 1/4 full when I open it up (Don't remember if htat is normal) Yes the smoke is still there. The truck starts are seems to run fine just a slight lose of power?????

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Old 04-28-2008, 08:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Does the fuel level in the bowl come up to full when you install the new filter? Sounds like a venting problem in the rear tank to me, if it's not venting properly you'll get a vacuum which would starve the engine of fuel. Does it do it on the front tank?
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The extra smoke happens with both tanks. Front tanks runs all the way to the the red below E. Is there a vent for each tanks? Where is it? Could this be causing the extra smoke?
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Not sure if it come to the top of the bowl when I put the filter back in but I don't think so.
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Each tank is vented through the filler neck for that specific tank, that's what makes me think that is what is making it seem like it is running out of gas only on the rear tank. I don't think the smoking is related to that problem, especially if it does that on both tanks. When it runs rough on the rear tank have you checked your fuel press at the schrader valve on the fpr? Pretty sure the fuel bowl should always be full. Others with more experience should chime in soon.

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In the morning I'll blow out the vent lines. Should I do it from the line as it comes off the filter? I have not checked the press. at the schrader valve. Still wondering about the bowl level too. I read that air could be getting in the system via a leak in the supply line because fuel is drawn to the engine (vac) instead to pos pressure from a fuel tank pump. Not sure why extra air in the fuel would cause smoke?? Thanks for your inputs
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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There is also a small (1/8" inner dia.) rubber vent hose on the top of each tank. It clips to the frame and has a little mushroom shaped cap to keep dirt out. This cap can also get filled with crud and keep it from venting properly. On the rear tank the vent line should be clipped to a crossmember just above the rear axle, near where the fuel gauge sender connects to the chassis wiring harness.

Additionally, there is a rubber pickup foot in the tank with a screen on the bottom. If this screen gets clogged then fuel can be pulled through a rubber bypass valve on the side of the foot. The result there is that the pickup will start sucking air at about 1/4 tank. (Note, this can also happen if the bypass valve falls out of the rubber foot). There should be some pictures of it in the webshots link in my signature.

Unfortunately, the only way to get to the pickup is to drop the tank (or remove the bed). Fortunately, it's not that tough of a job. It should only take a couple of hours, and the only specialty tool you'll need is the fuel line quick-disconnect tool (less than $10). There were two such tools at AutoZone when I got mine, and you need the one that works for the two sizes "E" and "F".
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Maybe you you could prove out the vent theory by loosening the fuel cap the next time the engine does it. If the symptoms don't go away then it's not a plugged vent. I would suspect a cracked fuel pickup tube and the fuel is aerating.
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on the 1/4 tank thing mine did it and I found the pick-up foot had broken off in the tank so it was runing out with 1/4 tank on the gauge.
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I try keeping the filler cap loose tonight on the way home tonight. Still wondering about the grey smoke with little load and filter bowl not being full when I changed it
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As said above, the rear tank running out of fuel at 1/4 tank is common when the in-tank pickup breaks. It's a fairly common issue on the rear tank.

On the fuel bowl, do you mean the level is low when you take the filter out? should be normal, the filter displaces a lot of volume,

how is your air filter? restricted intake could cause excessive smoke, also the fpr screen clean?
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If the icp sensor is reading low, but the actual pressure is not low, it can cause smoke, ask me how i know, or look on my youtube page.

Doesn't sound like your problem though. Is it even possible for the ICP to read low for malfunction?
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I hate to say it but I dropped the truck off at the shop today. I'll let you guys know what I findout
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Please do let us know..

Dont feel bad about taking your truck in. They can be daunting to work on. I am fortunate to have holes in my wallet so I was pretty much forced to work on it myself when I first started with trucks. Much more knowledge and experience later, but still a holey wallet, I have adopted the attitude that I wanna fix it and no one else can touch it. Obsessive huh?


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