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Old 05-11-2005, 02:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Powerstroke Longevity???

How long does international or ford recommend until first overhaul? I was told by a factory mechanic that ford recommends at 200,000 for their first major overhaul! Is this true i am looking for actual stats on what international amd ford recommends for the average service life on the engine. He also told me as an example the cummins
motor it is recommended for the first overhaul at 400,000 miles. I am not looking for i heard from a guy etc etc etc.

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Re: Powerstroke Longevity???

there was some very specific study data in the general diesel section about this provided by the manufacturers. got to search under some topics with 80 or 90 percent refered to as B90 schedules or something like that

I wonder too sometimes. I won't likely have mine very long, but 200k miles really isn't enough to justify the extra expense of a diesel. sometimes the truck falls apart or people stop maintaining the diesels properly because the truck is beat and they don't much care anymore.

I witnessed the demise of a 97 f-450(called superduty then) with a 150k miles on it because it idled all day long for about 18 months due to 2 reasons.

1) it was wyoming and it gets real cold, and 2) there was something wrong with the glow plugs/ injection that made it tough to start even warm (so it ran all day long).

it was a work truck and nobody gave two thoughts about getting an idle controller for it. It got a new motor and injectors for $10k+.
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The company I work part time fleets E350 vans with the PSD. The oldest one is a 95 and the newest is 2000. The 95 has 1.3mil mi. on it and is slowly losing one cylinder. The rest(20) have between 650k and 750k. A few transmissions, some accessory engine parts but not one of them has had an engine pulled yet. The mechanics who service them along with a lot of big buses really don't take that good of care although the oil is changed properly. So, I guess you could say that you can get almost as many highway miles as you want. dual oil filters, coolant filters and upgraded air filtration would probably get you there. Works for gassers too though not as many miles. I think you should use some lube additive as the fuel ain't what it used to be. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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The company I work part time fleets E350 vans with the PSD. The oldest one is a 95 and the newest is 2000. The 95 has 1.3mil mi. on it and is slowly losing one cylinder. The rest(20) have between 650k and 750k. Bud

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Nice to hear they have that many miles on them,That means they will bury me in mile if it lasts that long,lol
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The 95 has 1.3mil mi. on it and is slowly losing one cylinder. The rest(20) have between 650k and 750k.

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Gosh, thats sure good news, and with suspect maintenance...not bad at all!

I've got a '95 as well...with dual oil filters, large tranny filter and cooler, along with several other mods and I haven't quite hit 100K yet...so I should be good for quite some time. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]

I personally believe alot has to do with "Maintenance", in that its essential to keep our Powerstrokes well maintained, and they will be like the Energizer bunny...keep goin'..and goin'.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Heard of one at 750K lately, so some are sure putting them through their paces!

Seems odd that Ford figures 200K is when an overhaul should take place...just trying to sell parts perhaps? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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Re: Powerstroke Longevity???

We run all PSD's at work (underground utility construction). Of all the trucks i'd say we still have around 12-15 94-97's. They are all on their original motors, and to the best of my knowledge not ONE of them has been pulled. The majority of them have around 350,000 miles. I know there are two that have over 600,000 on them, and two more with over 750,000 on them.

None of them have ever had any major parts replaced...(just the normal, GPs, GPRs, Inj. O-Rings, Couple CPS' waterpump, radiator...) And thats about the extent of it. We take real good care of them, and as long and you do, anyone should be able to get that many miles out of one.
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Mine has 340k on it. 96 with 5speed. I bought it from a fleet. No leaks, no problems, has had water pump, injectors, glow plugs, engine harness, and injector harness, and clutch all in the last 50k.
Runs and drives great. hat the oil changed always no more than 5k intervals, most of the time was 4k.
this fleet that i bought this from had many trucks with 400-500k on them.
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If I wanted to get logevity out of a PSD and you are in a dusty area I would get an open element air cleaner and throw the stock filter in the trash. I wont know till I do a compression test but mine has 220k and I suspect it has been dusted.
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This sure makes me feel a lot better about my truck and it engine. I bought it with the hopes of getting alot of miles out of it and i do take good care of it. After i talked to this teck i was a little scared and was going to sell my truck and buy a cummins now i feel a little better besides i love the looks of my truck too much to sell for a dodge.

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I'm at 360K and still running strong. Probably need to do tranny and turbo but that is all just little items in comparison to the engine
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got almost 700k out of my 94.5 F450. and who knows how many hours of PTO run time it saw. 38' altec boom 10' RKI utility bed. utility service truck.

got to the point where cold rattle was so much i figuered id rebuild it before stickin a rod through the block. and oil pressure was dropping down little to low for my comfort after running it hard.

i was curious one day.....pulled up my SOCO commercial fuel account i burned almost 12,000 gallons of diesel through that truck. and it always got about 6mpg (including PTO run) when i would check mileage from just driving no PTO it was about 12mpg.
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This sure makes me feel a lot better about my truck and it engine. I bought it with the hopes of getting alot of miles out of it and i do take good care of it. After i talked to this teck i was a little scared and was going to sell my truck and buy a cummins now i feel a little better besides i love the looks of my truck too much to sell for a dodge.

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I feel better too since i just bought my truck a month ago with 140k on it.You know the dang dealers are just trying to make money to get us to rebuild at 200k,most are thieves anyway.You hangle with them over a new vehicle and they look you straight in the face and say :I'm only making 150 bucks on this vehicle"Ya right!Thats why a friend that owned a dealership for 30 years sold it and bought a HUGE home on 800 acres in Calif Not far from me.Let see how many cars he would have had to sell to buy a multi-million dollar estate at a 150 bucks a car.He did confide in me one day and said with the rebates they get back from the manufacturer they make around 35-40% on each vehicle.OK enuf venting,lol
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You sure about those gallons of fuel burned? I've put about 15,000 gal,. thru My '96 in about 281,500 miles at 18.8 mpg. My calculator shows You should have used almost 120,000 gallons, or about 15 transport loads.. ;-)
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Ok, and fuel is how much a gallon.... and your savings if you didn't buy fuel is.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
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I don't understand Your question. Logbook I keep track of fuel in does have the $$$$ spent also, and gallons, and MPG per that fillup, Average fuel price since 6-27-1996 when I got the truck is probably around $1.50/gallon....... And if I didn't "Buy Fuel"? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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