I'm really into preventitive maint. so, my positive battery cable needed replacing. I figger, once i put a wrench on that big red wire going to the starter, something is going to break, answer, toss in a new starter while yer in there. I put in a acdelco starter (made in japan by the way). so here we are, new starter, new positivie cable, new batteries, and the starter is described as planetary or gear reduction, or somethin like that. holy COW! this thing cranks over like there's no compression now. To me, it's un-friggin believable how fast this thing cranks over. The other thing i have noticed is that, you know how some people say (including myself previously) that when the engine is warmed up, they idle a bit rough, no that's not right, i tossed in a new fuel pump and fuel bowl assembly, when it's hot, it don't get rough no mo.. it idles like a small gas engine, as smooth as it gets. yea, so i figger, for about five hundred, in starting parts, this thing will start down to -5 degrees without a problem, i did zero degrees previously, although it sounded like all hell was about to break lose..
(yea, the fuel bowl and pump were about five hundred as well, (much less than a new truck tho))
I'm with you on the starter. I picked up one from rockauto, simply marked as a new, not rebuilt, with a planetary gear arrangement and my gawd, I could not believe the difference!
I installed e-fuel on mine a few years ago and it's butter smooth for the most part, but there are times, esp. after running the on expressway where it still idles a tiny bit on the rough side, no complaints though. And this is with new injectors and o-rings of course.
I would think planetary means the starter is turning real fast and easy, but the engine is turning slow? I guess that is fine as long as the engine turns over fast enough to start. I have 2 motorcycles, one must have a planetary setup as it "sounds like" it's turning the engine real fast. The other sounds like it's really laboring to start, but both do start every time, so I'm not sure the sound of the starter really is an indication of anything, but it is nice to hear it turn over fast and easy definately.
1997 F350CC, 4x4, PSD Tipper pro kleenex open filter. Roggen 6" lift kit with 26" ratflex 12" offset tires. Downpipe cut and welded to adapt 3" into a 12" outlet. 12" muffler cut and adapted to 2", then a special turbo manifold from a volkswagon modified to flank out to 3" to the tail pipe. Interior from a Corvair modified by cutting 6" off the padding. Snize and snide 32gallon aux tank mounted in rear seat, rear seat relocated to bed. Bed shortened to 4ft.
believe me, that starter is cranking the diesel over at least twice as fast, my terminolagy could be off about the planetary or gear reduction, but it cranks like crazy, starts in a second or less, it's been the best part of my day lately... I'm worried it will crank the teeth off the ring gear, thanks for the replies..
your right tho, it does sound like the starter will turn fast and the diesel slower but it don't seem to be the case
YOU ARE TALKEN ABOUT THE VERY EXPENSIVE GEAR REDUCTION RIGHT? THE ONE THE IS EXPENSIVE AS HELL? I ALWAYS WANTED TO TRY IT BUT NEVER COULD AFFORD. HOW MUCH FASTER DOES IT SPIN? 2X AS FAST OR LIKE A RAPED APE.
1999 f350 7.3 6spd; 243k miles no mods
new timing cover
K&N air filter
new ecm & idm
Even the stock starter was a gear reduction starter. Any new starter is going to spin the engine faster than a worn out one. No surprise there. Add in a bad battery cable and the effect is even moreso.
Too bad you spent so much replacing the stock fuel bowl and pump. I have less than $300 into an electric fuel conversion on mine and got rid of those leak prone parts.
So how long has the electronic fuel conversion been around? I keep my truck stock just cause I think it's easier, but if the electronic has a good track record, maybe I'll check it out next time around.
The electric fuel pump conversion for the OBS trucks has been around for a long time. It also has just as many problems as our mechanical fuel system has. It is just that those that have it don't come onto the forums asking for help that much just because they know what is going on with it. But every now and then you'll see someone asking for help with it because they can't figure out what they did or what they need to do to fix it.
If you wonder about the problems just go up to the Super Duty forums and check it out.
96 F250 PS XLT 4X4 long box, 5sp,4.10, manual hubs,pyro+boost guages, Dark Toumaline, add a leaf, Dale's TYMAR, and HX hose, downpipe, coolant filter, Luk clutch
Thanks for your honest opinion Bugman, you know, if I had to do it all over i think I'd still stick with the stock system just cause I'm not a true gear head and this truck has been my one and only daily driver for over sixteen years. the one part that sucks is i overpaid for the fuelbowl, i saw it the next day for a hundred less, $250, oh well, I just poured a hundred in diesel in the tanks today anyways.. i do like the way my truck starts now and how it runs, and people stop me (usually at the fuel pump) all the time to drool on it. or even buy it from me, lots of times. I guess if i had to replace it for one reason or another, i was thinkin a 2000 superduty with a 7.3
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