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ZF5 Interchange on '96 F450

Ok guys so I have 1996 F Super Duty 450. It is a flat bed tow truck with a manual zf5 s 47 with the transmission mounted parking brake. My transmission threw something in 3rd and the case is cracked now. It sucks because I just put it in.


I cant find a zf with the trans mounted brake anywhere in my area (Phila PA). I don't want to go through the trouble of having a rrebuild shipped out as this is what I just did 10k miles ago.


I know it will be much easier to find the zf 42 or 47 w/o the parking brake. Is it possible to buy that trans and put the parking brake on there? The back portion of my case by the parking brake is cracked. I don't know if that will come into play. If anyone has links to the procedure or can help me I would really appreciate it.


Is it a bad idea to use the s42 for the towing application?
Also I have a Chelsea PTO on the drivers side. Do all ZF 5s come with the port for that.


Also if anyone in the PA NJ DE MD area has a trans I could come pick it up.


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You realize that the transmission is the same as a 4x4 transmission, right? Is there anything wrong with your existing parking brake, that you can't use it?

All the ZF5s I've seen have PTO ports on both sides.
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No there is nothing wrong with my parking brake. So any 4x4 trans will bolt up to my parking brake? The transmissions aren't different if the brake is in the rear or on the trans? What about the issue of it needing the s 47?
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The 47 just means that it is rated at 470 lbft of torque where the 42 is only rated at 420 lbft.

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I know the 42 will bolt up but I need the 47 because of the towing.

From what I understand now a regular 2wd trans won't be convertible. Is it true that the 4x4 transmissions use the same case and that I can swap it out and put my parking brake on there.

Also was did the s47 come in 4x4 models?
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The 4x4 and parking brake trannies are the same. The parking brake bolts on the same place as the transfer case would (or vice-versa, depending how you look at it).

Plenty of people tow with the ZF-S5-42. Granted, the gearing is more favorable for towing with the 47, but your F-Superduty probably has a 4.63 or 5.13 diff anyway, so I would think a 42 would be fine.

The 47 replaced the 42 around the 1996 model year; this applies to all drive types, whether 4x4, 2WD or 2WD with the driveline parking brake.
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Ok so I am having trouble finding am s47. Will the s42 be able to handle a rollback tow truck. Also will the pto attach the same.
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Yes and yes.
I thought that was already answered.

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I know they both have spots to mount the pto ,but will the pto from my 47 work on the 42?
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Answered on the other forum too.
Yes, but you may have to swap the pto drive gear.
Also the gear lash has to be setup correctly when installing the pto.

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