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I am looking for a better scan tool that the micro tuner can provide. Any pro's or con's on these two? TIA Cost? ease of use? experience?
If you are looking at one of these scanguage's they they work really well. I put one in my 2006 Jetta TDI and the amount of extras you can program into them is pretty good. you can even monitor boost presure with them. The only thing i have found is that if you are scanning for codes it will not pull a soft code ( once and a while my jetta will throw a overboost code and go into safe mode have to shut the car down and restart to clear) The scanguage will not see this code and i have to use my Vag com to read and clear the code. When i get my truck i will be ordering another one and puttin git in as you can monitor 4 items at once so thats 4 less guages on my dash
If you want to data log and you don't mind having the laptop with you, go AutoE. If you want to use the gauge feature, then get a Scan Gauge. I have two in my truck. Mine does show soft codes and I can clear them as well. Each gauge also has 2 analog inputs to run other sensors that the Scan Gauge can not watch. I watch fuel pressure and water temp.
__________________ 95 F350 Crewcab4X4: TE Twin Turbo(BB fed by a Precision Hybrid from BWD), Industrial Injection BD Injectors, DIIC with custom stainless 3" piping, Terminator HPOS, DI headstuds, BTS tranny, TruCool 40GVW cooler, DP LIVE TUNED F5 with Extreme ICP(ya, it works)!, Custom fuel system, MagHytec diff cover.
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97 F350 Regcab4X4: Twin Turbo's, lots of fuel and oil.
If you are looking at one of these scanguage's they they work really well. I put one in my 2006 Jetta TDI and the amount of extras you can program into them is pretty good. you can even monitor boost presure with them. The only thing i have found is that if you are scanning for codes it will not pull a soft code ( once and a while my jetta will throw a overboost code and go into safe mode have to shut the car down and restart to clear) The scanguage will not see this code and i have to use my Vag com to read and clear the code. When i get my truck i will be ordering another one and puttin git in as you can monitor 4 items at once so thats 4 less guages on my dash
Yebbut, what data does it pull from an OBS? Most I've ever gotten was real rudimentary stuff; RPM, MPH, etc. My suspicion is that someone _could_, if they knew the right values to "key" in, program it to get more data from our trucks, the same way you program them for regular OBD-II cars. If someone did, and published the codes, this would be way more affordable than a lot of the alternatives. I'd love to know how to get, for example, engine oil temp, baro, EBP, MAP, and even ambient air temp. And of course, it can't display anything the PCM doesn't even see, such as coolant temp.
What would be the cherry is if someone could find the right codes to make the ScanGauge II do things like the buzz test and injector contrib.
Yebbut, what data does it pull from an OBS? Most I've ever gotten was real rudimentary stuff; RPM, MPH, etc. My suspicion is that someone _could_, if they knew the right values to "key" in, program it to get more data from our trucks, the same way you program them for regular OBD-II cars. If someone did, and published the codes, this would be way more affordable than a lot of the alternatives. I'd love to know how to get, for example, engine oil temp, baro, EBP, MAP, and even ambient air temp. And of course, it can't display anything the PCM doesn't even see, such as coolant temp.
What would be the cherry is if someone could find the right codes to make the ScanGauge II do things like the buzz test and injector contrib.
you would be amazed at what this guage can monitor. you are right though the computer has to be able to monitor it in order for the guage to read it
On my jetta i have it set to read MAP and just programed it to read boost presure as well. Had to program this in as the car is trowing a overboost code the odd time. Now that the guage is reading it i see why. I think teh stock turbo is set someware around 20+ pounds of boost and when i floor it im getting over 19. The joys of having a diesel with performance mods.hehe i can put alot of the mustangs and ricers to shame with my TDI. I need about 3 of them stacked to read all of the settings available to my car. It was definately worth the money i spent on it and i still havent had time to play with all teh settings and features available to it.
There's no "setting" on our turbo, it's not wastegated. Boost is a function of fuel delivery. Stock injectors, with hot programming, can deliver enough fuel for boost to reach into the low to mid 20's (psi of boost). Bigger injectors flow more fuel and the stock turbo can then get into the upper 30's. (However, the bearings in the turbo cannot handle the increased load, and the turbo life is drastically shortened).
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you would be amazed at what this guage can monitor. you are right though the computer has to be able to monitor it in order for the guage to read it
On my jetta i have it set to read MAP and just programed it to read boost presure as well. Had to program this in as the car is trowing a overboost code the odd time. Now that the guage is reading it i see why. I think teh stock turbo is set someware around 20+ pounds of boost and when i floor it im getting over 19. The joys of having a diesel with performance mods.hehe i can put alot of the mustangs and ricers to shame with my TDI. I need about 3 of them stacked to read all of the settings available to my car. It was definately worth the money i spent on it and i still havent had time to play with all teh settings and features available to it.
Oh-oh, now you've got me curious. I've always suspected a SGII could be a monitor/multi-gauge to a PSD. But where did you get the codes (TXD RXD etc) to monitor the sensors specific to it (oil temp, EBP, etc)?
Re the multiples/stacked, one thing the SGII really SHOULD have is a way to store "profiles". That is, set it up to monitor one set of four things one time, then with a push of a button or two, switch all four to another preset set of monitors. Would be real handy if you use it in more than one vehicle. Switching each "corner", and paging through all the monitors to get the ones you want, is a PITA.
Oh-oh, now you've got me curious. I've always suspected a SGII could be a monitor/multi-gauge to a PSD. But where did you get the codes (TXD RXD etc) to monitor the sensors specific to it (oil temp, EBP, etc)?
Re the multiples/stacked, one thing the SGII really SHOULD have is a way to store "profiles". That is, set it up to monitor one set of four things one time, then with a push of a button or two, switch all four to another preset set of monitors. Would be real handy if you use it in more than one vehicle. Switching each "corner", and paging through all the monitors to get the ones you want, is a PITA.
i got most of the programing info of a VW site as the unit for now in in my 06 jetta. the scanguage2 is swapable between vehicles and if i remember corectly will remember settings for each vehicle. i know this unit has way more settings but never really get time to go out and sit in the car and play with it. google is your friend when looking for the programing keys for the unit. i will be ordering another when i get my truck hopfully this week im going to pull it from teh jetta and run it in the truck and see what i can program it to monitor. had to laugh last week as some buddys with a 95 or so deisel truck got questioning me about my car. they were realy impressed by teh power i had gotten out of it. as he was looking through the interior he said i needed some guages to monitor things... told him he was looking at it mounted on the dash. his jaw sorta dropped.
Have you got your truck yet? What year and engine? If so have you been able to program the scanguage for Engine Oil Temp, Coolant Temp and turbo boost pressure?
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'04 F350 CC Lariat, March 2004 build date, 2 tone 6l Auto 18" Wheels, May '07 no buzz flash. Replaced: head gaskets, turbo, VGT actuator, fuel separator(2), EGR valve, EGR cooler, plastic CAC pipes and hoses, MAF, EBP sensor, FICM.
2004 Jayco Eagle 325BHS, 35' 5er, 4 bunks & Queen, 2 slides, 12,500 GVW
ya got the truck but havent transfered the guage. I may just order another one. Did such a neet job installin it in the jetta that i dont wanna rip it out just to put it back in...
Congratulations on your new truck. Those 7.3 liter diesels are awesome. I have had so many problems with mine now I wish I had bought a 2003 with a 7.3 liter in it.
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'04 F350 CC Lariat, March 2004 build date, 2 tone 6l Auto 18" Wheels, May '07 no buzz flash. Replaced: head gaskets, turbo, VGT actuator, fuel separator(2), EGR valve, EGR cooler, plastic CAC pipes and hoses, MAF, EBP sensor, FICM.
2004 Jayco Eagle 325BHS, 35' 5er, 4 bunks & Queen, 2 slides, 12,500 GVW
Have you got your truck yet? What year and engine? If so have you been able to program the scanguage for Engine Oil Temp, Coolant Temp and turbo boost pressure?
On Zrock's OBS, the PCM picks up Engine Oil Temp, but NOT Coolant Temp (coolant temp sensor goes right to the cr@ptastic dash gauge). Going from memory, I don't think the PCM gets turbo boost either. 'Course, your 6.0 has a completely different set of monitors.
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