Power Strokes 1994-1997 Upgrades and AftermarketUpgrading or adding OEM or aftermarket equipment to your 1994-1997 Ford F-Series with Power Stroke engine.
it still looks like i am going to have to custom build the system no one makes a kit for the obs trucks all are for 99 up superduty but now that i think about it guys are using sd springs on obs trucks the kit should fit with minor mods ???? any thoughts
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
I would get in touch with the suppliers and see if they can order one for the OBS - many things are not listed but are available for the older trucks, it just takes a bit of digging to find them.
The point about SD springs is a good one as well, my bet is with minimal modificaitons (maybe as simple as installing the correct spring mounts on the frame in place of the original ones) it could be made to work fine.
Dave / Believer45
__________________ THANK YOU to all the heroes in our military and all the heroes at home who wait for their safe return. I am humbled by and grateful for your service and sacrifice.
'95 F250 ext cab long bed, PSD, 5 speed, 2 wheel drive, 3.55 gears, 286,000 miles, Edge Evolution CTS (LINK TO MY REVIEW), LUK clutch, homemade REAR BUMPER, open element AIR FILTER, 36" ARE contractor cap. With tools, full of fuel and me on board (300 lbs) steer 3620, drive 3860 total 7480.
HMMMMM any of those suppliers do not want to see if one of their manufaturers will make a kit i may just order the sd kit and try
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
How about simply taking several leafs out of your stock spring pack and installing a AIR Helper Spring setup?(Like Firestone or AirLift)
You could get the smooth ride from reduced springs while maintaining the capacity by pumping the bag pressure up...
How about simply taking several leafs out of your stock spring pack and installing a AIR Helper Spring setup?(Like Firestone or AirLift)
You could get the smooth ride from reduced springs while maintaining the capacity by pumping the bag pressure up...
Just a thought...
my goal here is actual air ride not a half breed kit ( sorry to be blunt about it but that way seems kind of redneckish ) by going that way i would lose pay load
I CAN NOT STRESS HOW SORRY I AM ABOUT BEING BLUNT AND TO THE POINT I DO APPRECIATE THE INPUT THOUGH
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
How about simply taking several leafs out of your stock spring pack and installing a AIR Helper Spring setup?(Like Firestone or AirLift)
You could get the smooth ride from reduced springs while maintaining the capacity by pumping the bag pressure up...
Just a thought...
I talked with a truck suspension company my last employer did business with about this very plan. They said it would work fine. I would need new (and possibly shorter) U-bolts. They said to make sure I did not run out of thread before getting the axle clamped to the now thinner spring pack. The more leafs you remove the softer the ride. Keep the air bags inflated to at least 10 psi (or whatever the manufacturer recommends) when empty, increase when you load her down.
The air assist springs would return the load capacity (most manufacturers claim 5000# of capacity on their air springs) so as long as I did not reduce the factory spring pack capability below 1500# I would stay level or increase the spring capability with the modification. It is my understanding the main spring leaf by itself is well over that so there is no loss there.
I have not done it yet, am currently unemployed and probably will not until re-employed.
This would be probably a $300 total part cost and a couple hours in the shop, even for a do-it-yourselfer like me. Much cheaper than a full goose air ride kit, although not as technically advanced and most likely not quite as good a ride.
Dave / Believer45
__________________ THANK YOU to all the heroes in our military and all the heroes at home who wait for their safe return. I am humbled by and grateful for your service and sacrifice.
'95 F250 ext cab long bed, PSD, 5 speed, 2 wheel drive, 3.55 gears, 286,000 miles, Edge Evolution CTS (LINK TO MY REVIEW), LUK clutch, homemade REAR BUMPER, open element AIR FILTER, 36" ARE contractor cap. With tools, full of fuel and me on board (300 lbs) steer 3620, drive 3860 total 7480.
Last edited by Believer45; 11-16-2008 at 04:10 PM.
This is not the way to do it. You will have axle wrap issues front or back if you do it like this. For the rear there are a few options all around 2k. For the front there is nothing. I am building my own using 05 radius arms and firestone air springs. Cost is around $700.00 but its a bit of work for a F250.
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05 f350 CC LB King Ranch. 6.0 stock with torqushift and 3.73 gears. This thing is SLOW
This is not the way to do it. You will have axle wrap issues front or back if you do it like this. For the rear there are a few options all around 2k. For the front there is nothing. I am building my own using 05 radius arms and firestone air springs. Cost is around $700.00 but its a bit of work for a F250.
axle wrap was my next concern especially with the upgrades i have and am looking at doing in near future
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
who makes a good trac bar kit for rear or should i make one using a a couple heavy duty heim joints or a watts linkage ?? just curious either works i know just trying to get input to help make my decision
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
who makes a good trac bar kit for rear or should i make one using a a couple heavy duty heim joints or a watts linkage ?? just curious either works i know just trying to get input to help make my decision
Watts link has nothing to do with axle wrap, it simply controls side to side motion of the axle. Its so simple to make up some type of bar to eliminate axle wrap, if you have the equipment then do it yourself. Longer is better.
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05 f350 CC LB King Ranch. 6.0 stock with torqushift and 3.73 gears. This thing is SLOW
Search the local yards where you are for a 95-97 F350 ambulance. Many of these had the air-ride suspension complete with leveling valves. Most yards will sell them for almost nothing as they are not aware of the real value. I purchased the whole ambulance with a running 7.3 for about what the suspension will cost new. This way I get every piece plus the rest of truck. Only problem is the ambulance will probably be geared very low( mine has 4.63 ) and a Dana 80.
Foxman
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96 OBS 7.3 E4OD 4.10 Hand-made Tymar, CCV mod, Cruise added, bucket seats & console, saddle-tool boxes w/68 gallon tank in ctr, all LED tail & body lamps, visor, E350 bus wheels, 9ft goose-neck body
97 F 450 E4OD 7.3 Dana 80 rear w/4.63 Reyco/Granning rear susp. aftermkt leather bucket seats AIC Comming soon: 3.73 rear gearset - complete sound proof - flatbed w/sadle tool boxes and fuel tank between boxes - York on-board air - Visor - Fog lamps in 4" holes in bumper. - adding pwr window and locks adding guages = boost, pyrometer, trans temp, water temp, oil temp, oil press, diff temp and clock
Watts link has nothing to do with axle wrap, it simply controls side to side motion of the axle. Its so simple to make up some type of bar to eliminate axle wrap, if you have the equipment then do it yourself. Longer is better.
i do understand watts linkage has nothing to do with that i guess i kinda did not explain what i was doing in that question by trac bar i meant something to keep the diff centered in the truck SORRY FOR CONFUSION THERE ( keeping the diff centred in truck)
as far as axle wrap i have a system idea that should eliminate axle wrap from the truck my race car chassis buddy agree's it should work the only way to tell will be to build it and try it
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
i am going to build a Z bar style set up but i would like some input on the front bushing should i use a factory style spring bushing or stiffen it up with a polyurethane style ( like energy suspension ) i am looking for ease of repair when things wear out i think poly will out last the truck it is just easy to get spring bushings locally i need to order poly
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
Why not a big heim joint that is what I was thinking. Then there should be no binding as I had mentioned earlier and you will have a very solid link to the front spring hanger. I think a Z link to the front spring hanger should be pretty staright forward and will eliminate axle wrap.
Take pix and keep posting....
cool...
jrc
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97 XLT F250 CC ZF-5 (now ) DIY short shifter 355's D60 air locked T Wildman files, 'jectors, SD Hpop, DIY E-fans, IC, DP 4" exhaust, SS resonator, RSK, SD springs all corners, Velvet rides, Custom Aluminum Drybox/fuel tank, air bags, E-air compressor, VisionX HID/LED's, E fuel, F26D rear tank, E-fan Tranny oil cooler. http://community.webshots.com/user/jcart44
Poly bushings are not effected by oil and dont really dry rot but they do distort and split. I have used poly bushings in many locations were the factory bushings outlasted them by far. I would try and use a OEM bushing in the arms, even if they are spring bushings. That small amount of rubber will help absorb shock and vibration. And if this is the truck you haul that camper with then i would think you want comfort on long hauls.
By Z link are you talking about 2 parallel bars going forward and then a nother bar at a 45' between them, like the rear suspension of most drag racers? If that is what you are talking about i dont know how it even fit up front and strength would scare the hell out of me. Why not the topical radius arm with track bar. Its proven and works well.
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05 f350 CC LB King Ranch. 6.0 stock with torqushift and 3.73 gears. This thing is SLOW
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