DIY Stage 1= 160cc good for towing? Better options???
I have a totally stock 96 PS out of a E-Van so i think i have the smaller turbo, Also E4OD. My only plans are IC, Intake, and free flowing exhaust without cat. I tow a 10k pound 5th and would like a little more torque but dont want to worry about EGTs. Would i just be better off with a chip? If i install the injectors would i still need a chip to help with EGTs? Money for mods is tight and this truck is only used in the summer for towing.
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1997 F250 HD started life with a 351 gas motor, now has a PSD from a 1996 Ambulance. 4'' Magnaflow SS exhaust, 3'' SS downpipe, TW chip, Stage 1 DIY injectors, IDM mod, BB mod, Tymar intake, Gutted ebpv. Soon to have dana 60 up front with 05 radius arms and air suspension.
Re: DIY Stage 1= 160cc good for towing? Better options???
well teh IC is goign to cost you as much as teh cheapest injectors so thats your choice. Your best bet would be Beans tranny savers teh 130cc ones, very small increae but worth every cent, you will need a chip to help with it, Tony W can set you up with some tow programs that would really help, with thsi setup you could get away without teh IC and save that money, add a good flowing exhaust and a Tyamr intake adn your set.
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1997 F250 FireTruck Red,CC SB,auto( Prescion TC, HD-2Tugger),5" exhaust, custom Swamp 195cc Hybrid injectors, TWildman 4-pos chip,open air cleaner, I/C w Banks intake, 225,000km,AIC,dual electric fans,Sky mfg RSK w/ D60w/ARB locker,Ramsey 15k# winch, BFG/AT 315's, F450 rear springs, home of Craig's Performance Diesel pictures
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Re: DIY Stage 1= 160cc good for towing? Better options???
Injectors won't do you much good without a chip. And where is it written in the Powerstroke laws that you have to have an intercooler to tow with one. CraigPSD has 175/190s and tows an '05 Mustang without going over 1100* in the hottest program that he has.
Re: DIY Stage 1= 160cc good for towing? Better options???
Well for the price of the IC i think its a worth while investment. I have fabricated many ICs for turbo/supercharged cars and have alot of alluminum 3'' pipe around. Totall cost would be around $150.00 for me to build the IC, piping and spider. Anyone have a address for BEAN? The trans is a fresh rebuild and will be getting a transco tugger shift kit and im trying to learn about the many different TCs out there.
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1997 F250 HD started life with a 351 gas motor, now has a PSD from a 1996 Ambulance. 4'' Magnaflow SS exhaust, 3'' SS downpipe, TW chip, Stage 1 DIY injectors, IDM mod, BB mod, Tymar intake, Gutted ebpv. Soon to have dana 60 up front with 05 radius arms and air suspension.
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And where is it written in the Powerstroke laws that you have to have an intercooler to tow with one. CraigPSD has 175/190s and tows an '05 Mustang without going over 1100* in the hottest program that he has.
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Sure. On level ground, ok.
Go hit some hills, and .. oops, there goes the EGT's north of 1200. Gee, wonder why that happened.
It is not written in law you need an IC, but arguably most everyone will agree that it is highly recomended.
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'95 F250 XLT 4X4 Ext Cab long bed, 5 speed, SMFW, custom kevlar LuK clutch by Superior Friction San Jose, 3.55 LSD, '88 kingpin D60, Sky RSK with SD V code springs, 175K miles, ATS 1.15 BB turbo, BDP Stage 2.5 injectors, BDP fuel system, 4 line Stealth, '02 120V IDM, ARP studs, Spearco 7.3 intercooler, 3" intakes, Northern Diesel Performance 6-pos TS chip w/TW tunes, guages, Tymar intake, EBPS bypass mod, IH bellowed uppipes, 4" DP, straight exhaust, 200PSI train horns and 215A alternator..
Re: DIY Stage 1= 160cc good for towing? Better options???
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And where is it written in the Powerstroke laws that you have to have an intercooler to tow with one. CraigPSD has 175/190s and tows an '05 Mustang without going over 1100* in the hottest program that he has.
-Michael
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Sure. On level ground, ok.
Go hit some hills, and .. oops, there goes the EGT's north of 1200. Gee, wonder why that happened.
It is not written in law you need an IC, but arguably most everyone will agree that it is highly recomended.
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Re: DIY Stage 1= 160cc good for towing? Better options???
Well he must not try to go very fast up the hills when I had my stock 120cc in my 97 I could get to 1200 easey just getting on the highway. with a IC not a problem at all any more . Now with the stage II's I can get hot if i'm in a setting over 80hp. I Need New turbo bad. I would of never did injectors with out a IC
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00 CC, LB, DRW, Black F350 4x4, 6 speed, lunar series Boost and EGT. DP tuner 6pos chip SBC clutch,fuel system. GTP 38R BB, by Diesel Inovations. Weld Typhoones rims, Tymar filter,CCV mod and TERMINATOR OIL.
97 CC, SB Green F250 4x4 5 speed, SBC clutch, F5 DP chip, Isspro boost, EGT.Stage II sticks, Tymar, CCV mod, TERMINATOR OIL, Banks pipe kit IC, fuel system, GTP 38R BB Turbo, Weld Typhoones
07 Dodge CTD, QCSB, Dark Gray 4x4, 6 speed, Tinted windows and a B&W hitch, MBRP 4in, AFE Stage 2 Progaurd 7, Centerline Wilderness Grizzly, Smarty CR, Quadzilla Commander, Fass 150, sbc , head studs so far a MPI twin turbo ,DDP 90hp tips also. It still smokes a little
Re: DIY Stage 1= 160cc good for towing? Better options???
The trans is a fresh rebuild and will be getting a transco tugger shift kit and im trying to learn about the many different TCs out there.
[/ QUOTE ]Converter is a no brainer P.I.Stallion ,it made my truck a whole new animal.
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Kenworth T-600 aerodyne 3406c CAT, with 18* "B" modle injection pump(was a freakin peak yuk),10 over trans,4.10 rears,Dual 150 gal. fuel tanks,Budwieser inspired custom hot rod flames.Going to work real soon Leasing to Landstar yeah!
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Re: DIY Stage 1= 160cc good for towing? Better options???
How much did the pi stallion run you?
-Kord
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Re: DIY Stage 1= 160cc good for towing? Better options???
1, if you can make an IC then hell yes do it, that is worth the money.
2. then do the DIY injectors, you can make then smaller if you want like 130-150cc, very easy.
3. a good chip, call T Wildman is worth every singel penny you spend on it.
open teh exhaust and use a Tymar intake
A PI Stallion is a great TC, really great, but do not install teh tugger kit before you get it, teh plate can not be drilled very must before it is too harsh.
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1997 F250 FireTruck Red,CC SB,auto( Prescion TC, HD-2Tugger),5" exhaust, custom Swamp 195cc Hybrid injectors, TWildman 4-pos chip,open air cleaner, I/C w Banks intake, 225,000km,AIC,dual electric fans,Sky mfg RSK w/ D60w/ARB locker,Ramsey 15k# winch, BFG/AT 315's, F450 rear springs, home of Craig's Performance Diesel pictures
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