Detroit, Auburn and Eaton are all reported to be working on limited slip diffs that are switchable to full lock for our diffs. There are several versions out there including the Detroit Electrac for the D60. Has anyone seen any hard info on the release for the Sterling?
I believe this may be the best all around. I dont like the ARB because it's completly open when not engaged. I have run Detroits, there not as bad as some people make them out, but they are very serious, too much for a daily driver on mostly pavement. The factory LS and the Auburn break loose when you have one tire off the ground. I know, that contradicts with "mostly pavement" but that's me. Must be ready for anything!
Anyway, it seems to me a LS selectable to locked would be the least compromise, provided the reliability is there.
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I was talking to a guy that installs them the other day and he said they had problems with them and they were very finiky even with just different fluids in the diff. Also said it was hard to get the parts for them. The ARB would be great for the front because you don't want it locked in any way in the front under most conditions but you could lock it when you wanted/needed it. For the back I'd really like to try one of these LS/Lockers though.
my buddy has a detroit electrac in his truck and has already had it break on him. there having solinoid issues with them. he went to an arb since then. i run arb's in both ends of my truck and love them.
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teh ARB works great in teh front, got me out of places the truck should not have gone, but if you could get a LS / selectable locker for teh rear I would buy one in a heartbeat, somebody go make one please
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I had the factory L/S for three years in my 94 van. Then I went to the ARBs. Since then, it is very rare that I think, "it would be nice to have a L/S". 'Open' works just fine for 99.9% of driving conditions. When you need it locked, the buttons are right there. It really is the best of all worlds for most people.
A selectable locker that employs selection between OPEN, or LOCKED, will never huall A__ on the street. You can't run open for obvious reasons, and full LOCKED will just put you into the Mcdonalds parking lot trying to make that hard lefthander on the ricers bumper. In order to actually stay consistent and fast on pavement, you HAVE to use a LS unit. An automatic locker would be the absolute worst case for this. It would be pulling posi trying to push you into the woods, then as soon as you lifted to set it up in the turn, it would unlock totally disrupting the suspension load, only to relock again when you get back in it and try to push you into the trees again. Don't ask me how I know. I've run them all. If you like having fun on the street, LS is the only way. If you just want to roll around on the street or go in totally straight lines, then a detroit locker, or a spool/selectable locker is fine. Open sucks for everything, it's not even in the discussion. LS for the street, with selectable locked for the times when you're hanging a tire would be the ultimate carrier.
CharlieII,
When my OEM LS wears out, do I go back to OEM LS, or is there aftermarket LS that are better. I run the truck on the highway most of the time, except during hunting season. We do encounter snow and mud in the back woods but I don't do any rock crawling with my truck. Al
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exactly Charlie, if I could jsut get teh stock LS tightened up some more I would be happy, teh inside tire spins way too much then it upshifts and bogs when hooked, then downshifts and smokes good and then goes sideways, scares the rice rockets but good, Crewcabs are not supposed to get sideways on dry pavment at 40 mph. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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You can't run open for obvious reasons, and full LOCKED will just put you into the Mcdonalds parking lot trying to make that hard lefthander on the ricers bumper. In order to actually stay consistent and fast on pavement, you HAVE to use a LS unit...... If you like having fun on the street, LS is the only way. If you just want to roll around on the street or go in totally straight lines, then a detroit locker, or a spool/selectable locker is fine. Open sucks for everything, it's not even in the discussion. LS for the street, with selectable locked for the times when you're hanging a tire would be the ultimate carrier.
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[/ QUOTE ] "on the ricers bumper" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] Most people are not out playing "Starsky and Hutch". How close, points wise, are you to losing your license (this time)?
Try driving with 400+ hp and 750+ ftlbs even at 8000lbs and runnign 35" tires 12" wide I can break em' loose at will, do you really think even at 38 yrs old I will let some punk kid right lane me, hell no!, ever seen teh look on the drivers face or teh passengers face as you PASS them at 60ft.
Hell teh truck is nearly as fast as the car, WHY you ask??? becasue as every redneck I ever met will tell you" because I can".
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" lying is a cheap way out of reality, the real cost is the loss of respect and trust"
I have never used an arb in a truck, but i can tell you in offroad community a lot of guys will not trun them because they are prone to failure! the compressor always goes out along with leaks and such. Its the only reason i never got ARB or my offroad rock crawlin jeep, but for the big trucks it may different. I would do a ot of research before buying an arb though.
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I've never had a problem with "points" or losing my license.
I don't know what planet you're from, but just exactly what kinds of times do you think Crown vics are turning these days, lol. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
Charlie I'd have to say I agree with you. LS is it for on the street. Hook up to a sled and that switch would be VERY nice to lock it up solid. PROVIDED the unit was RELIABLE. I know I'd be lighting the inside tire up in smoke continuously if I had an open diff. However as you said I wouldn't want a full locker on the street either. The front end I'd go full open until switched and the only thing I know that does that is the ARB. Thing that sucks about it is haveing to have the added weight of the compressor and tank. Not a big deal in most cases but if you are drag raceing you want it as light as possible. Wouldn't matter much though when it came time to hook onto the sled.
i dont have a problem with the compressor issues since i already have compressor system to run the air ride on my truck. i have never had leak issues i didnt use the air line that it came with i used a DOT approved line and fittings like the use on semi truck brake systems. theres been arb's in my truck since 98 and they get used quite regularly.
nit, yours such a redneck.....but thats why we like you....i love it when they try to righ lane you and you get them pinched of then lug it on out.....
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