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Old 08-07-2005, 02:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

I can't get that third 5/16 bolt out. What did you guys use? Tried all kinds of u-joints and extensions. I can't get a good hold on it to loosen it. Haen't stripped the haead yet so that is a good thing.
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

The one on the back I take it? I just used my 3/8" socket with something like a 4-6" extension, got my other hand around there to get it on and it pulled right out. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

Yes, that is the one, I thought it would be that easy too, but alas it is not, atleast not on my '95.
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

I know you probably tried this but make sure you soak it in WD-40 or something. One other thing I did was remove my down pipe that gave me some room to manuever around.

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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

Soaked the bolt overnight. I unbolted the downpipe from the muffler, and have pushed it up and over to give more clearance, but I still can't get a straight shot to the bolt. For some reason it feels like the socket isn't sitting all the way down on the bolt, like the socket is hitting the ebpv housing or something.
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

I ended up using a small end wrench and put a bar against it and hit the bar with a hammer to get mine loose. It was a PITA! Best of luck it will be worth it to get that butterfly removed! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

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I ended up using a small end wrench and put a bar against it and hit the bar with a hammer to get mine loose. It was a PITA! Best of luck it will be worth it to get that butterfly removed! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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From memory, there were frequent posts about this several years ago. Mine came off easy, using a 5/16" combo wrench- box end on the bolt in question, then as described above, while leaning over the engine, place a piece of pipe (like 1/2" - 1" water pipe, about 1' long or so, but anything will do) over the open end and hit w/ hammer to break it loose. Once started, it's easy. I did the EBPV gutting in less than 30 min, including a reduction in the freeze plug diameter by a few 1000ths so it could be pounded in. Surprised me how quick it went.
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

I found mine was not a 5/16, but a 8mm. I soaked it in liquid wrench, then broke it with a closed in wrench with another wrench(like a 3/4) slipped down over the top for a pry bar. Once it broke, i used a ratchet wrench
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

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including a reduction in the freeze plug diameter by a few 1000ths so it could be pounded in

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I found mine was not a 5/16, but a 8mm

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On ALL I have ever done, The 5 /16 just fits tighter and has less chance of stripping off the bolt head.
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

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I ended up using a small end wrench and put a bar against it and hit the bar with a hammer to get mine loose. It was a PITA! Best of luck it will be worth it to get that butterfly removed! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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From memory, there were frequent posts about this several years ago. Mine came off easy, using a 5/16" combo wrench- box end on the bolt in question, then as described above, while leaning over the engine, place a piece of pipe (like 1/2" - 1" water pipe, about 1' long or so, but anything will do) over the open end and hit w/ hammer to break it loose. Once started, it's easy. I did the EBPV gutting in less than 30 min, including a reduction in the freeze plug diameter by a few 1000ths so it could be pounded in. Surprised me how quick it went.

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Did mine the same way. Used some P-B Blaster, let it soak for 30 min and used the method above. Another way of doing, is start the truck up, get everything hot then try the above method.

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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

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I found mine was not a 5/16, but a 8mm. I soaked it in liquid wrench, then broke it with a closed in wrench with another wrench(like a 3/4) slipped down over the top for a pry bar. Once it broke, i used a ratchet wrench

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Bingo!
Soak and use stubby 8mm boxed end. Use another tool such as larger wrench to add leverage. The stubbys are short but very beefy. If the bolt is frozen, it will be frozen at the bolt head flange, not in the threads.
I use BP Blaster on about everything.
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

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I found mine was not a 5/16, but a 8mm. I soaked it in liquid wrench, then broke it with a closed in wrench with another wrench(like a 3/4) slipped down over the top for a pry bar. Once it broke, i used a ratchet wrench

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Bingo!
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

I got it out. 8mm box end with pipe and a hammer worked for me. Wow, what an improvement. I can now chirp my 35's from a stop.
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Using a 20mm freeze plug, it was a hair too big to fit. A ridge even formed at the contact point with the hole in the EBPV. So, holding it like a coin between thumb and middle finger, I applied my Dremel w/ stone at an angle, causing the plug to spin slowly between finger &amp; thumb and allow an even amount to be removed from the outside diameter. Pounded in securely after. Has lasted &gt;30K miles without problems.

Freeze plugs are cheaply pressed from sheet and not always the perfect diameter.
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Re: Had it with trying for 3rd bolt on EBPV

I was just curios. I never once had to reduce the size of the Freeze plugs I use.
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